pettie4sox

That was legit funny.

The argument is stand for something, anything, at this point because dems are the epitome of empty suits. I stand here wanting to bash my head against wall because they keep trotting out the same BS expecting to work.

That's the crazy thing because both Obama and Biden ran as populist and governed like typical establishment democrats. They are responsible for what happened in 2016 because of how they governed... They sold people a pack of lies and the suckers just ate it like crunch bar. You act like there is a ton of these BS type dsa candidates all over the place. You do realize the dnc probably doesn't even want them under their umbrella, right?

You are not trying to win republican voters as much as you're trying to get the non voters off their butts to vote for you. There is a huge untapped market of people who simply don't vote that the dems have refused to tap into for whatever reason.

I would need to do research but I know the squad were all BS endorsements, I think Cori Bush who won a primary against a long term establishment Dem. She won her race yesterday. Jamall Bowman in NY-16. Biden got huge turnout because of Trump not because of him.

True but I would rather the dems take a risk and run a candidate like this than to keep shoveling the bland ones they have been. I rather see it rejected on a national scale then in a primary where the party makes up all these rules to prevent democracy and the like lol.

Yeah I'm not even sure you believe this.

To me evidence of this was looking at BS's WV primary vs HRC in 2016. He overwhelming won the support the rural voters because he actually offered them some substantive policy.

Wishy washy just means hasn't really always been for XYZ but now she is because it's the thing to do. Listen honestly warren would have been a better candidate than Biden but it is what it is. I probably would have voted for her as I didn't vote for Biden.

Anybody but Trump. If covid didn't happen, Trump was going to win pretty easily.

That she is wishy washy? Which of her policies were actually her own and not stolen/modified from BS?

I'm going to respond at my own peril but greg the reality of the matter is, any other president in this particular predicament would have been crushed by a reasonable candidate. The fact that the corpse of Joe Biden is barely beating DJT at this moment is pretty amazing. He did nothing but sit around and let Trump sink himself.

That's because she was a wishy washy candidate that was always after the flavor of the month. She never came across genuine at all.

I think dems need to embrace the suck before their party becomes so fractured they will never win another election. Run on the populist policies like Trump did in 2016 mind you and give people a reason to get up and vote. I swear you ask any Biden supporter or Trump supporter what they like about their candidate and it's all platitudes and cliches. Zero substantive policies... why is that? Why do people consistently vote for politicians who generally only remember you once every 2,4, or 6 years?

OK then put up candidates that move the needle of voters. Nobody wants plain cheerios when you can have honey nut.

Yeah that's epic fail, they still don't get what moves the needle of voters. Susan Collins was pretty much glass joe, Graham too... both super vulnerable if you ask me.

I see there was a phone call to concede but the race hasn't been called yet, interesting. The dems and their do nothing stand for nothing centrist candidates get shown the garbage bin. Not surprising.

It's possible a lot of voters had gideon or collins 1 or 2 accordingly and if that's the case they gotta count all the ballots again to see who is 1 or 2 more times.

They have RCV in Maine, that contest will not be called.

How do you figure she was re-elected?

What is the best interactive map on the net right now?

Where are you guys getting your info?

It's not going to work. Some people are seeing through their ruse.

Why the mods didn't try to scam me out of money is beyond wild. Where is your Don the Con spirit?

Gross miscalculation on their part. Now they get to bleed out instead of going quick.