Everything posted by pettie4sox
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President-Elect Donald Trump: The Thread
QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jan 10, 2017 -> 11:06 AM) You can admit whatever you want, but its not correct. /green
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President-Elect Donald Trump: The Thread
QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 10, 2017 -> 10:56 AM) Black women politicians are so successful at winning elections. The black women caucus is huge. I should have /green but let's be honest, black females is a move of the goalpost.
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President-Elect Donald Trump: The Thread
QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jan 10, 2017 -> 11:24 AM) Not sure what you are responding to. I never said that the DNC wasnt "corrupt", I said that Bernie didnt get screwed. The next line of logic makes absolutely no sense. The media said "Trump" had no chance and it was already over, yet Trump won. Trump won a bunch of "blue states" in the primary, CA, NY, IL, and lost Texas/Ohio/Wisconsin/Minnesota. There is a certain irony that you are calling out the DNC, but then saying that somehow Sanders, who lost, should have been the nominee because he did better in states that were more necessary to win the Presidential election. Well that isnt how the primary works. You keep saying if they let the "Democratic process play out", but have yet to show any evidence that Bernie Sanders had votes denied or Clinton was given votes. Bernie Sanders lost, just like the Blue Jays or the Red Sox. Maybe the AL could change its rules so that the team they think "has the best chance to beat the NL" is just placed in the World Series and they dont have to play the games. I guess the DNC could do that too, but that would seemingly be less "democratic" than having primaries where the winner is nominated. There is just a lot of false logic in what you are saying as Hillary also beat Sanders in Pennsylvania, Florida, Virginia and North Carolina. Who knows if Sanders could have won, maybe merely being a white male would have pushed him over the top. But again, if Hillary sucks, Sanders sucked worse. Because it wasnt that competitive of a race, it was 60% to 39%. For comparison in 2008, Obama was 53%, Clinton was 46%, and if you take out "superdelegate" it was 51% to 49%. Even more ironic, is that Obama did well in "red states" in the primary. So where is the smoke? Hillary lost to Obama by the very same rules that she beat Sanders. In fact Hillary crushed Sanders when compared to the Obama/Clinton race. I know history and facts are boring, but Sanders lost because he couldnt beat Clinton in the primaries. The DNC didnt change the rules to help Clinton, they didnt give Clinton votes. Now if you want to change the primary system, that is a legitimate argument, but you cant retroactively do it. I know I know the leaked emails claiming the sabotage are just complete and utter bulls***. I never claimed their was voter fraud in the primaries, voter suppression OTOH, absolutely. Also I never said Sanders should have been the nominee, I just simply said to have the primaries without shenanigans. I know the numbers back up Hillary won but to some it's a giant asterisk. As for the Trump bit, his supporters are extremely resilient if you haven't noticed; they were going to vote for him no matter what. He got his base so fired up that he could have said anything f***ed up during the campaign and the supporters would have believed he never said that. That's some grade A charisma right there. Listen the DNC can do whatever shenanigans they want as it's their party but I wouldn't be surprised if they don't clean up their act if there are more red victories in the future. They are under a giant microscope now.
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President-Elect Donald Trump: The Thread
QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 10, 2017 -> 10:44 AM) FWIW that's the same argument Hillfolk used against Obama in 2008. He still went on to win. And as for the media coverage, you could have said the same thing about Trump's chances being portrayed as "LOL" but people still showed up. Additionally, Trump brought out some dark roots in people that made them think, "YES, HELL YES, f*** MUSLIMS, f*** N*****, f*** ANYONE THAT'S NON-WHITE. A lot of people have these thoughts in the country and they were definitely going to vote for a non PC person like Trump.
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President-Elect Donald Trump: The Thread
QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 10, 2017 -> 10:44 AM) FWIW that's the same argument Hillfolk used against Obama in 2008. He still went on to win. And as for the media coverage, you could have said the same thing about Trump's chances being portrayed as "LOL" but people still showed up. Obama had the ultimate X factor. He was black. If HRC was black, she would have won. Yes, I'm admitting this.
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President-Elect Donald Trump: The Thread
QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jan 10, 2017 -> 12:50 AM) Uh what? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results_of_th...primaries,_2016 Hillary won by over 3mil votes and almost 1k delegates. The only people that keep up the myth "Bernie got screwed" are Republican's who are still trying to split the Democratic party. The entire idea of Hillary had to be more progressive is ridiculous. Hillary didnt lose because she wasnt "progressive", she lost for the exact opposite reason. Clinton got "crushed" in deep red areas, whereas Obama only "lost." Granted Hillary did mess up pretty majorly, and had she maybe been a bit more "prepare for the worst, hope for the best" she may have gone harder for Wisconsin/Michigan, etc. But again, being more progressive shouldnt have done anything. Any true Sanders believer would never have stayed home, never would have voted for Trump. So the only angle was to be less "hated" by hardcore Republicans. And perhaps you havent noticed, but those people arent exactly into progressive policies. So no, the DNC didnt "guarantee" his victory. Trump's victory is nothing more than flipping a penny 10x and having it come up heads every time. It is rare, but it happens. It was a perfect storm of things, that I could probably write 500 pages on. What is Hillary supposed to be doing? She lost, she has no office, her career in politics is likely over. The hate she receives is bordering on insanity. Obama/Michelle went hard for Hillary and even THEY couldnt get their own voters out. Listen, you can hand wave the DNC corruption, that's your prerogative. It's definitely not a myth as you claim. You had the media saying that BS had no chance and that it was already over. That's pretty much telling people to stay home and not vote which is bulls***. Granted, people need to be think for themselves and not be so influenced by the media. You had the delegate count with the super delegates included. That was another bulls*** ass method to manipulate people. You had emails that were leaked that showed the DNC were in cahoots with HRC. BS was an outsider to the DNC and their actions showed he wasn't going to get a fair shake. If the DNC let the democratic process take place without any shenanigans and HRC won, maybe just maybe she wins. That's all people wanted. The irony is the Republicans also had their own outsider and they allowed the primaries to play out and he won. Hillary won a bunch of red states in the primaries that were not going to vote for her in the general. BS won those states that Hillary lost in general. I can say with the putrid voter turnout this election a guy like BS would have got people out to vote for him and win the damn thing. Hillary sucked and that was proven. You want to know why, because DONALD f***ING TRUMP was her opponent and she still got beat. Lastly, the DNC is already split. The neoliberals and establishment democrats just got their teeth knocked down their throat and the progressive wing is trying to repair the party's image. The Clinton's are cancer and now they are gone we'll see just how much resolve they have now. 46% of the country didn't vote and ~24% elected Trump president. That's a lot of people that stayed home under the threat of president Trump. Hillary sucks. That is all.
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President-Elect Donald Trump: The Thread
QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jan 9, 2017 -> 11:05 PM) Why would the DNC get behind Bernie when Hillary destroyed him? Never forget a MAJORITY of Americans voted for Hillary. Whether you like it or not, a minority of Americans screwed you Greg. And they along with you, will have to deal with the fallout. The party of Reagan bowing to the Russians. The party of small government promising to spend and increase the federal government without a word about "balancing the budget." The Russian's won, after all of these years, they won. And all they had to do was post a few false stories to convince people like you how "terrible" Hillary was. Ummm bro... did you not hear what happened during the primaries? DNC got a dose of karma after the shenanigans they pulled. Hillary thought she could win without winning over progressive voters, welp they just proved her wrong. Her narcissistic ass got beat because she couldn't get Obama voters to go vote for her. She was f***ing pathetic and deserved to lose. Look at her now, sulking and crying foul about the FBI and fake news. Bernie is still out there fighting the good fight. Good riddance to the Clintons. Trump is going to suck massive dick but the DNC pretty much guaranteed his victory.
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2016-2017 NCAA football thread
So happy to see Bama go down and flames. f*** them!
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2017 Republican Thread
QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Jan 8, 2017 -> 02:31 PM) I wasn't saying Ocare was bad OR good, merely that with any of his failed policies, Obama prefers to blame his messaging rather than the actual message. Never a 'gee, the general public really doesn't like my idea to bring in 10k Syrian refugees, most of them being males of military age'. Ah good point. I do feel like that's a trait of politicians that their egos just don't allow them to admit that their policy didn't resonate with the people.
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2017 Republican Thread
QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Jan 7, 2017 -> 02:21 PM) Obama's entire 8 years has been him claiming that if he could ONLY have explained his s*** to us better, we would all realize the extent of his wisdom and bow to his brilliance. Seriously, they always claim they only failed because they didn't get the 'message' out correctly. Maybe he did and people didn't like it. That thought never seems to enter his mind. Obamacare on the surface is not a bad concept. People should be able to get insurance without the for profit insurance companies telling them sorry, but you'll cost too much because of your pre existing conditions. You pretty much needed a job or to be married to someone with a job to get proper insurance before. So accessibility to good insurance is something I think we all can agree on. The major problem arose when they allowed those bloody insurance companies to try to get theirs when it should have been f*** you from the get go. You should not be able to profit off the health of the people, period!
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President-Elect Donald Trump: The Thread
QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 7, 2017 -> 10:48 AM) If people actually cared about corruption they wouldn't have elected Trump. or hillary?
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President-Elect Donald Trump: The Thread
QUOTE (greg775 @ Jan 6, 2017 -> 05:34 PM) Like I said before, I'd be OK with him getting kicked out of office before he takes office. Let McCain or Herman Cain or somebody like that be president. Or cite an emergency and let Obama serve two more years and have another election in two years. As long as it's not Hillary I'm OK with dumping Trump over this Russian interference issue. Even Bill would be OK, just not Hillary. If it can be proven Russia doctored votes then I'd think Trump could be declared ineligible for office. It's unprecedented, but if Russia influenced the vote, don't we need another election? greg you are ready to start the second civil war with that rhetoric
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President-Elect Donald Trump: The Thread
QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jan 6, 2017 -> 08:47 AM) Isnt it though? It's a big deal and it's disingenuous of him to think otherwise.
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President-Elect Donald Trump: The Thread
QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Jan 5, 2017 -> 01:19 PM) 130k/year salary now has to pay a whopping 875 bucks more in taxes. Big deal. hopefully that was meant to be /green otherwise you're a terrible conservative.
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President-Elect Donald Trump: The Thread
QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ Jan 4, 2017 -> 05:10 PM) http://www.fox32chicago.com/news/crime/227116738-story And the purpose of the share is?
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President-Elect Donald Trump: The Thread
First carrier now ford... Trump is an absolute joke.
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2017 Democratic Thread
QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 3, 2017 -> 02:21 PM) Balta posted that report last month that technically NC no longer meets the standards of a full democracy. Would be really nice for some sort of equal protection ruling mandating nonpartisan districting. I think we're one of the handful of countries that allows politicians to draw their own districts. Why on earth would a politicians want to win fair and square when they can rig it before it starts? The people that keep voting these idiots in are to blame.
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President-Elect Donald Trump: The Thread
QUOTE (greg775 @ Jan 3, 2017 -> 11:12 AM) Ford canceled plans for huge plant in mexico. 700 jobs added in detroit. Nice development. That's cute. Keep it up, Trump!
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President-Elect Donald Trump: The Thread
QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 30, 2016 -> 05:31 PM) See that's the fun part. If it were a Republican in office, we'd hear non-stop about the two failed wars in Libya and Syria, along with reigniting the cold war with Russia. Of course it goes both ways, partisans gonna partisan of course. I'm just shocked that republicans would be rallying behind a scumbag like Putin when their hero RR brought down the whole caboose.
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President-Elect Donald Trump: The Thread
QUOTE (Brian @ Dec 30, 2016 -> 03:34 PM) I'm curious what the people, who 8 years ago were calling BO a communist, think of all this. Well they all seem to be fellating Russia now, which is weird if you ask me. Trump is already proving he's the great uniter, I mean he is going to make Russia super friendly toward the US again.
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President-Elect Donald Trump: The Thread
so this is what happens when non washington insider gets elected to the white house all hell breaks loose!
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President-Elect Donald Trump: The Thread
Don't they have scabs who will perform in lieu of the originals performers?
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Russian Ambassador to Turkey shot & killed
QUOTE (ron883 @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 03:43 PM) Looks more like you're trying to create an issue out of nothing so you can get mad about itm. Go back to watching Fox news. I'm sure they found a teacher in bumf*** who wants to get rid of a christmas tree. You can get mad about that war on christmas atrocity AD is a respectable poster and this was completely unnecessary.
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Presidential Power Rankings
Did anyone find out if he's actually tweeting or is it a staffer?
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Russian Ambassador to Turkey shot & killed
QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Dec 21, 2016 -> 09:47 AM) yeah, been gone for a while, but if I would have remembered, would have had to make it half green. You know there are people out there trying to find a way... Those people are dumb.