DBAHO

Damn I still remember my last day of high school like it was yesterday (too bad it was more than a year and a half ago). Oh and congrats Alex.

QUOTE(YASNY @ May 12, 2005 -> 12:55 AM) In other words ... it doesn't make sense to bring up BMac at this point. I need to learn to simplify things don't I.

QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ May 12, 2005 -> 12:50 AM) That's what I thought, the guy is average at best. Why not use B-Mac for long middle relief. It would rest our starters and get B Mac some experience in the bigs. Probably because they want him to stay starting down at Charlotte. It's not like we need another Neal Cotts situation again. Also he's still not that ready yet (Cheat said 1.5 HR's given up per start) so he's still got some small things to work on. Also you waste another option, and start the arbitration process earlier, so there are a lot of factors to consider.

QUOTE(Steff @ May 12, 2005 -> 12:47 AM) http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=33531 Thanks Steff.

QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ May 12, 2005 -> 12:46 AM) what's the scouting report on Walker, stats? Stats aren't good. He struggled in Charlotte, and his last good season was back in 2000 IIRC going 7-1 4.43 ERA.

Happy Birthday Ian!!! Hope you have a great one!!!

QUOTE(RockRaines @ May 12, 2005 -> 12:42 AM) Dye's best years were in KC, which is in the midwest. I dont need more months to evaluate Dye's performance, give me the lat 2 year to evaluate how effective he has been, or the last several to show his steady decline, whichever you like. Despite the fact those 2 years were in a pitchers park.

Finally an actual starting SS for Charlotte.

QUOTE(C_LEE45 @ May 12, 2005 -> 12:10 AM) Abreu WILL get traded this year PROBABLY to the Yankees,and thats why i say we jump in and snag him dont act like its imposable to get Abreu,and the last time i looked we had some good prospects 1 - Abreu makes $13,100,000 2 - He's hitting .298/.423/.496 3 - Philly is going to want a king's ransom 4 - Philly could decide to trade Marlon Byrd, Ryan Howard or even Pat Burrell instead.

QUOTE(rafacosta @ May 11, 2005 -> 10:26 PM) We have just lost a series, we still have a great record, up 3,5. But if you want someone to replace Dye, what about Cliff Floyd? Jose Guillen? Jose Guillen was FA in last offseason, and we sign Jermaine Dye... :banghead Wow rafa's posting again. Good to see you back around the place.

According to the Daily Herald;

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ May 11, 2005 -> 11:04 PM) Their GM is who needs to quit. The Gm can only do so much. Ownership has always been the problem there and always will be. Picks for New Manager? Personally I'm going with the small girl with the glasses in the Royals ad on MLB.TV.

QUOTE(beck72 @ May 11, 2005 -> 10:43 PM) On the flip side, Minny hasn't been able to get to a world series with their non-deals at the trade deadline. though Minny's consistency is something to admire, not taking some risks has its drawbacks. Still my point is, with their payroll limits, it's not likely Kris Benson would have been the difference b/w them making the world series and not. I think they're the best run organization in the league, and a lot of that is due to their farm system and they let their prospects develop.

QUOTE(rangercal @ May 11, 2005 -> 07:16 PM) see: Royce Ring, Corwine Malone, Kris Honel, Joe Borchard Ring - Never had enough velocity to justify his early selection. Malone - Trying to make his way back at B-Ham. Was on Peavy's level 3 seasons ago. Honel - Same as Ring basically. Borchard - He's a bust we all know it. Gonzalez if he can stay healthy is going to beat the track record on those four. People say Sweeney was a steal in the 2nd round of the 2003 draft, well I think Gio in the supp 1st round of last year's draft is going to be an even bigger steal, with that Zito like curve.

QUOTE(Jabroni @ May 11, 2005 -> 06:46 PM) And they keep losing in the playoffs to the Yankees because they don't have the money to make a big move at the deadline for another starting pitcher. Their rotation doesn't get it done in the playoffs but they can't make a move because they are a small payroll organization. We have the money to make a move for what we need and I would be pissed if we didn't. Their starting rotation isn't good enough? Would Kris Benson have been an upgrade over their 3rd starter Carlos Silva? Santana and Radke is a pretty damn good combo to have in the playoffs. They just haven't scored enough runs really.

QUOTE(qwerty @ May 11, 2005 -> 06:42 PM) Liar. Excuse me, at least I didn't bomb out all the time.

QUOTE(rangercal @ May 11, 2005 -> 06:40 PM) DBAHO , you need to take a trip here to chicago. You will understand why we are so hungry to win now. No more debates with scubby fans at school, work, family events. You really need to be here I take your point. You guys really want to win now, and I don't blame you. I'm just looking out for the future because I don't want us to be in the bottom half of this division (although I don't think that's going to happen). A team to look at through all of this is Minny. Now they haven't really made any big deals at the deadline (remember last year Kubel for Benson), and they keep winning the division. Joe Mauer, Jason Bartlett, Jesse Crain and Justin Morneau show how important it is to have good, young players. Gives you so much more flexibility with the makeup of your team.

QUOTE(rangercal @ May 11, 2005 -> 06:37 PM) Jabroni , I think vegas is the right place for us. We want the jack pot. DBAHO Likes security which is understandable. Hey I'm pretty good at Poker. Ask Wite and Dan.

QUOTE(YASNY @ May 11, 2005 -> 06:31 PM) I'd have to see them play before making that call. I don't think he'll trade either one of them, though. What they did at 2004 Spring Training probably determined that in his mind. Ozzie's too.

QUOTE(Jabroni @ May 11, 2005 -> 06:38 PM) Security = not making the playoffs, or at least not trying to make them. We're 33 games into a 162 game season. It's too early determine what we need to make the playoffs still. If Shingo returns to his 2003 form, or Hermanson or Marte can do the job at closer, the problem is solved.

QUOTE(rangercal @ May 11, 2005 -> 06:38 PM) I hear the pirates like Borchard They really do want young power hitting corner outfielder. They took take a flyer on Borchard, but there's no way we'll be getting someone like Mesa back.

QUOTE(Jabroni @ May 11, 2005 -> 06:35 PM) Yes, you are. Do you think any team is going to take Joe Borchard at the deadline? You have to give up talent to get talent. This isn't MVP Baseball. You can't trade scrubs for good, established players. Who said I was offering scrubs? You want to give up our best prospects for a 3 month rental. I know we all want to win a World Series, but we have to look at the long - term picture as well.

QUOTE(rangercal @ May 11, 2005 -> 06:31 PM) I think he's thinking Borchard for mesa As if Dave Littlefield is going to be stupid enough to do that (but it is Dave Littlefield we're talkin about).

QUOTE(Jabroni @ May 11, 2005 -> 06:29 PM) Wow, now Gio Gonzalez is untouchable? Who do you think we are going to get at the deadline if you wouldn't even be willing to trade him? You value prospects far too much. Am I? Gonzalez's performances this season are almost a carbon copy of B-Mac's from last season, and we know no-one wants to give up B-Mac right now. 2-1, 1.23 ERA, 6 BB's, 38 K's John Sickels rated him as our 2nd best prospect a B+, with Brandon McCarthy the best with an A.

QUOTE(Jabroni @ May 11, 2005 -> 06:26 PM) I agree on B-Mac and Anderson. I think he would move Sweeney though. So would you prefer to keep Sweeney or Anderson? Anderson is more progressed and definitely the better and most ready player, but Sweeney has more potential and could easily hit over .300 in the majors.