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I don't hav a wife yet. . But my parents hav done that a few times and they r still together.

I still think we're gonna non tender Shoe though to save another $2 mill of the payroll.

The only Blackhawks thing I got is a puck with the Blackhawks logo on it.

Now u can hav some fun wit that.

BEGOOD now Beastly.

Rookie of the Year - "Pitcher's got a big butt! Pitcher's got a big butt!"

I wish I could too.

Pretty funny actually, Mighty Ducks fans are angry at Paul Kariya for shelling out $3,000 for a dinner celebrating Colorado's win over Anaheim. The irate Ducks rooters have launched a "Beat the Avalanche Fund." Proceeds will be donated to the charity of the Anaheim player who scores the game-winner against the Avs. The website is www.allducks.com. Here's the way it will work. The fans donate money between now and during the game on December 19th when the Avalanche come to Anaheim for the first time this season. The total will be donated to the charity of the Mighty Ducks player that scores the game-winning goal's choosing. If the game ends in a tie or an Avalanche win, the money rolls over to the next HOME game against the Avalanche.

Plus he'd prob be too expensive as well. If u r gonna pay a lot for pitchin, u'd expect results. He's too injury prone for my liking.

Nope they didn't. $3 mill is pretty good value though. Would hav got way more than that in arbitration though so the Sox couldn't take that chance, espeically when they're on a budget.

Also this from David Van Dyck, AL Central Movers: This is the most frugal division in baseball (some say "cheap" is a better word), but the White Sox seem most intent on movin' and groovin' in N'awlins. With Two-Ton Bartolo Colon and Tom Gordon already gone, the Sox have some money to spend. They might have more to spend if they really do trade the $14 million of All-Star outfielder Magglio Ordonez. GM Kenny Williams is not afraid to put his neck on the line in an effort to compete with the big boys. Shakers: The Twins and Royals would like to keep their newfound status as contenders in order, but neither has much money. The Twins badly need to get relief help and another starter. The Royals would like a veteran hitter like Raul Mondesi and may even end up dealing Carlos Beltran in the right trade. Spectators: Cleveland is rebuilding with youth, and Detroit is Detroit. Enough said. The Tigers act like they would like to get into the free-agent fray but signing Fernando Vina hardly counts as "major." But GM Omar Minaya could still try to deal Livan Hernandez or Jose Vidro. What about the Marlins? Well, the champs expect to do only some fine-tuning. But there is one blockbuster that could still be left: signing catcher Javy Lopez.

Nothin much bout us really but that ain't a suprise now is it. The Braves are talking with the Cardinals about a trade for right fielder J.D. Drew. The deal could be expanded to include a third team because of the Cardinals' desire for front-line pitching. One possibility would be for the Braves to land Drew, the Cardinals to acquire Angels left-hander Jarrod Washburn or right-hander Ramon Ortiz and the Angels to receive right-hander Jason Marquis and a prospect. The Braves also could deal directly with the Cardinals, but they don't have a proven starting pitcher to trade. The Cardinals also are trying to move the versatile Eli Marrero. In the wake of the Pettitte signing, the Astros could trade RHP Tim Redding or LHP Jeriome Robertson, either individually or as part of a package with infielder Geoff Blum. The Astros have discussed Blum with the Astros and could target Pirates right-hander Kip Wells. The Pirates, however, are more willing to trade right-hander Kris Benson, who is owed $6.25 million next season and coming off a shoulder injury. If the Astros traded a starter, they would be left with a rotation of Pettitte, Roy Oswalt, Wade Miller, Redding or Robertson and possibly Carlos Hernandez, who is throwing well in Venezuela. The Blue Jays are awaiting a decision from free-agent right-hander Miguel Batista, who is drawing interest from the Mets and numerous other clubs. Batista would become the Jays' No. 2 starter behind Roy Halladay and in front of Ted Lilly, Pat Hentgen and Josh Towers. Their front three couldn't match Pedro Martinez-Curt Schilling-Derek Lowe or Mike Mussina-Kevin Brown-Javier Vazquez, but it would be a solid upgrade for a team that loses Kelvim Escobar and Cory Lidle. The Tigers not only are bidding for free-agent shortstop Miguel Tejada, but also want to sign a corner outfielder, with Reggie Sanders, Raul Mondesi and Rondell White among their possibilities. Sanders also is drawing interest from the Mets and Dodgers and could become a fallback option for the Yankees if they nix the Gary Sheffield deal and decline to pursue Vladimir Guerrero.

From TBO.com, TBO.com Article Carl Everett remained a free agent Thursday, and the Rays remained poised to pursue Jose Cruz Jr. or Juan Gonzalez should Everett decline their contract offer. Nothing tangible came of the discussion Thursday between Everett's agent, Larry Reynolds, and Rays General Manager Chuck LaMar. The discussion is expected to continue today, but the Rays have made it clear that they're willing to move on relatively quickly and want to make at least one signing before the meetings end Monday. Everett, 32, made $9.15 million as an All-Star designated hitter for the Rangers and White Sox this past season, but the Rays are believed to have offered the Tampa native significantly less - something in the $3 million range.

From the New York Post, NY Post Article So get ready to hear Roger Cedeno's and David Weathers's names in trade proposals. The Mets will likely talk with the Padres about a Cedeno-for-Terrence Long swap and with the White Sox about a deal for Billy Koch. While there are other big names available via trade, like the White Sox' Magglio Ordonez, they may be too expensive (Ordonez, who would be an ideal fit in right, is due $14 million).

You cannot be serious. Garcia is goin to be non tendered so we can get him for nothin anyways, and that's if we want him. Speaking of Maggs Rumors, here's one that's got a bit more substance to it. Yankees Article That means trade options, as well. The Chicago White Sox want to unload Magglio Ordoñez and his $14-million salary for 2004. How desperate they are could determine if the Yankees have a chance, as the Yankees' only trading chip is Alfonso Soriano.

That certainly would be a start. Call up Anton Babchuk and Vorobiev, giv em and da rest of da kids consistent mins, and trade DUI Alex as well.

Hehe, good luck on ur Chemistry final there bones_r. We sure hav been busy in da last hour.

Well they do hav a great pitcher's park down there in LA, hence why their strength is pitchin. There's no point in payin heaps of money to hitters down there cos they ain't gonna put up gr8 numbers, so u need to put the majority of ur budget into pitchin, but enough into position playa's and hittin so that at least ur pitchers get enough run support.

Yikes only 4 teeth?

Hence why they were afta Sexson bf he bolted to Arizona. They definitely need 1 or 2 guys to bolster their lineup, but I wouldn't start dealin from the strength of their linep in pitchin. Gettin rid of Brown will save money and then they can prob go afta a guy like Juan Gonzalez who won't break the bank but could provide some much needed pop in their lineup.

I think this is the article that got every1 so worked up about us gettin Estes. General manager Ken Williams will head south this week in an attempt to move the White Sox up in the standings, and he is ready to deal at a moment's notice. With the winter meetings set to kick off Friday in New Orleans, Williams is prepared to consummate a transaction at the airport, at his hotel, in a room full of baseball executives or on Bourbon Street. It isn't so much that a number of other teams already have added key components to their 2004 rosters. It's just the feeling surrounding the winter meetings that gets Williams ready to make deals. "It creates a sense of urgency,'' he said, "but we're always ready to do something that makes sense at any time.'' At last year's meetings in Nashville, Tenn., Williams appeared animated after a late-night and early-morning swap of ideas with a handful of other unidentified general managers. Two days later, Montreal Expos GM Omar Minaya admitted the Sox were among the teams he was in discussions with. A month after that, the Sox obtained Bartolo Colon from the Expos. Williams once again will head into the meetings searching for pitching help after Colon ended his one-year stay with the Sox by signing with the Anaheim Angels on Tuesday. The Sox' fourth-year GM could be close to adding a front-line starter as the Boston Red Sox and New York Yankees already have done, or he could lay the groundwork for something to happen in the near future. "Our seeds are planted long before you get to the winter meetings,'' Williams said. "You never know when you'll match up with a club. You never know when you'll match up with a free agent.'' Williams was optimistic about the 2003 club even before the midseason acquisitions of Roberto Alomar and Carl Everett. While the Sox failed to make the playoffs -- and Alomar and Everett will go the way of Colon and sign with another team -- Williams isn't about to panic. "We felt good about the team even though we didn't accomplish our season-ending goal,'' he said. "At this point, you can only spend so much time being disappointed or being discouraged. You have to move forward.'' Here are the Sox' top five priorities for the winter meetings: Starting pitching The Sox could use two new starters heading into spring training. They were in the same position a year ago and came away with Colon and Esteban Loaiza, the find of the offseason. While it might not be realistic to land a pitcher the caliber of Greg Maddux, other available free agents include Shawn Estes, Sidney Ponson and Pedro Astacio, who is coming off shoulder surgery in June. Former Sox left-hander Wilson Alvarez, who had a mini-resurgence last season with the Los Angeles Dodgers, also is available. Acquiring Odalis Perez from the Dodgers no longer seems likely, despite persistent rumors. Relief pitching Billy Koch will get the first crack at the closer job with Damaso Marte waiting in the wings. Marte expressed a desire last season to eventually become a starter, but that isn't likely to happen in 2004. That leaves the Sox looking for a setup man now that Tom Gordon and Scott Sullivan have signed elsewhere. The Diamondbacks' Mike Myers, the Royals' Graeme Lloyd, the Dodgers' Paul Quantrill and the Braves' Darren Holmes are free agents who could provide the answer. Outfield help The Sox are prepared to let a healthy Aaron Rowand take over in center field, but it couldn't hurt to have somebody in waiting if he falters. Available free agents include Todd Hollandsworth, Marvin Benard and Orlando Palmeiro. Carlos Lee and Magglio Ordonez are expected to remain in left and right field, respectively, though both have been involved in trade rumors. The Sox hope Joe Borchard finally is ready, but he struggled offensively at Class AAA Charlotte last season. Minor-league sensation Jeremy Reed is only 22 and at least another year away. Utility infielder Recently acquired Juan Uribe is expected to take over Tony Graffanino's utility role, but he could be busy elsewhere if he beats out Willie Harris for the second-base job. Because Harris doesn't play any infield position except second, another utility player isn't a bad idea. Obtaining the Dodgers' Alex Cora via trade would unite him with brother Joey Cora, the Sox' new third-base coach. The Angels' Adam Kennedy also is rumored to be available, while free agent Todd Walker has said he is open to playing multiple positions. Bench power Power hitters eyeing a spot on the Sox bench, beware. With the team committed to Joe Crede at third, Lee in left and Ordonez in right, playing time is hard to come by. Jeff Liefer didn't like his limited action two years ago, and Brian Daubach and Armando Rios were unhappy last season. Time will tell if Ozzie Guillen can find more playing time for his bench than Jerry Manuel did. With Daubach being placed on waivers Wednesday and Rios turned loose after the season ended, the Sox again will be on the prowl for bench help.

Interestin read this from da Trib, While Buehrle's immediate future became clear, Thomas' grew somewhat muddled after ESPN reported that a three-team deal had been discussed that would have sent The Big Hurt to Los Angeles, the Yankees' Jeff Weaver to the Sox and the Dodgers' Kevin Brown to New York. Even before it appeared Thursday that the deal would be limited to Brown and Weaver, Sox general manager Ken Williams squelched the rumor in two words—"not true,"—and added: "There was a proposal but I shot it down. I'm disappointed that an overture of that nature was leaked and became public." The fact teams even have inquired about Thomas raises questions about whether the Sox, who are eager to move a big salary to meet their $58 million payroll, are trying to deal the two-time MVP—and whether Thomas is willing to be dealt. As a 10-and-5 player—10 years in the league and five with the same team—Thomas can reject any trade. Williams wouldn't say whether Thomas had indicated he would be open to a trade under certain circumstances—i.e. if the team that acquired him offered a lucrative extension. Williams said he hasn't spoken to Thomas about the issue. Asked if Thomas' agent, Arn Tellem, had expressed a willingness to waive the no-trade clause, Williams replied: "I'd like to keep those discussions private." Although the 35-year-old Thomas posted his best season since 2000 when he hit 42 homers and batted .267 in 2003, the terms of his contract would appear to make him tough to move. Thomas is owed at least $17.5 million over the next two seasons—$6 million in 2004, an $8 million option in 2005 plus a $3.5 million buyout (or $12 million team option for 2006). It's unclear whether Thomas wants out after hearing what former teammate Ozzie Guillen said about him Nov. 3, the day he was introduced as manager. Guillen said, "I hear a lot of negative things about Frank," and "I want him to be great in the clubhouse and play the game the way it's supposed to be played." As of Wednesday, Guillen had not spoken to Thomas since his hiring. Guillen said he gave up after repeatedly trying to reach Thomas early this week. Thomas usually maintains a low profile in the off-season, or as a low a profile as one can keep living in Las Vegas. Tellem has done the same, declining to return phone calls and ignoring an e-mail request for comment Thursday. So Thomas CAN reject any trade still, I thought he waived his no trade clause when he reworked his contract?

Mayb not in the regular support where u do need run support, but in da postseason Josh Beckett and Andy Pettite dominated and won many playoff games for their respective teams.

Don't count in Ross Gload just yet. There hav been rumors that Scott Spiezio could come in play for us, I think his Dad used to play for us? and manny ppl around here would definitely like to see Spiezio come to Da Cell.

Nice report there Heather, nice to hav the gods of hockey on our side for once.