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no hawk? booooooooo

QUOTE(SpringfieldFan @ Aug 2, 2005 -> 11:06 AM) Similar, though different. In the Brewers logo, the same foreground item represents different things. The Big 10 logo, however, uses the background or "negative space". In psychology, I think it is called "figure/ground ambiguity". SFF uh.........huh

It's kinda like the big 10 logo. It's hard to see the 11, but when you do, it's the first thing you see from then on.

i never noticed the M and the B awesome

i had to console him after the game

I'll be there w/ some soxtalkers

QUOTE(Middle Buffalo @ Aug 1, 2005 -> 09:37 PM) On highlight shows, yes. Frank never did interviews and promoted the Sox or himself, though. i agree, frank mismanaged the media, but that's just who the guy is, oh well. He didn't really do anything for fans to hate him, he just wasn't a loveable media character. Some people aren't, oh well......he has a damn fine legacy to himself no matter what.

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Aug 1, 2005 -> 09:36 PM) Yeah, we're officially in the playoffs now. it IS safe to say guys, we've won the division.

QUOTE(Middle Buffalo @ Aug 1, 2005 -> 09:34 PM) I don't disagree, and wasn't as clear as I should have been. My point is that Robin never said two words, but he was really popular (with the fans). Frank had an opportunity to be a huge national figure, and it wouldn't have taken more than a little effort from him. He didn't step up, and as a result, both Frank and the Sox (one of the best teams and best players of the 90's) are an afterthought nationally. I'm not saying he should have done anything differently, but he certainly could have done more. frank also would have had alot more national exposure if he wasn't injury plagued the last 5 years, that's the main reason

QUOTE(GBlum## @ Aug 1, 2005 -> 09:26 PM) RIP Willie. your new group name should be "Unfaithful"

QUOTE(Middle Buffalo @ Aug 1, 2005 -> 09:19 PM) Like it or not, dealing witht the media is part of the profession. It's also another way to connect with the fans. I would have loved to hear Frank interviewed on the Score back in the day (and based on the reaction of this board when a Sox player is on the radio or ESPN, so would most of you). Face it, Frank blew his opportunity to be more than just a player. He culd have been our icon. Ventura was and still is the most popular player from those 90's teams, and it's not because he was a better player. He was better with the media, and a better team player. i agree with your first paragraph. The nation and more so casual fans, go by what the media says, he did a poor job of that. But your second paragraph is way off. When we think about this era of sox in a few years, frank is the most recognizable BY FAR

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Aug 1, 2005 -> 09:19 PM) http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?showuser=769 Best name ever? I think so. booooooooooooo, should be Pozuna. besides, the best name ever is Marc summers, greasy's uncle

how can you not love that guy?

adorable

good luck with your roomie alex. i went through all that last year and unfortunately it sucked. he was way too into halo and yelling things into his headset but got a single dorm this year, woo woo

QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Aug 1, 2005 -> 05:54 PM) I'm getting the DS version. someone actually owns a DS?

look around. there are numerous articles about what a great personality sweeney is. he's exactly what an athlete should be.

as much as i like frank thomas, can't say i disagree with the article. it's a good article

The one time timo drops a fly ball because he doesn't want to use 2 hands i'm going to flip out. Whenever i'm at a game and have the unfortunate experience of having to watch timo play, i will scream at him to use 2 hands when the ball is in the air. People look at me like i'm crazy like "how did you know he would only use one hand?"

4 game sweep, are you kidding me? Time to come home boys

ps: any illini fan turn on ESPN, they're doing a thing on zook in a few.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Aug 1, 2005 -> 02:45 PM) This is the biggest problem with Buerhle's ejection. Hermanson is the 6th pitcher. vizcaino .1 IP cotts .1 pollite 1.1 marte .1 I'm sure they'll manage.

was worth it and shows mark's character. name on the front > name on the back

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Aug 1, 2005 -> 02:21 PM) Pitch 1 - Called Strike Pitch 2 - Called Strike Pitch 3 - Called Strike Sammy Sosa called out on strikes. man I have seen that too many times. seeing that in print makes it funnier

this team = good. i mean, really really good. wow