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QUOTE (winninguglyin83 @ Jun 8, 2014 -> 12:36 AM) Did not see the game. Actually turned on the radio for the Trout at bat. Just wondering how Ventura lost the game? not disagreeing. Just wondering what moves he failed to make: Leaving Sale in too long? Farmer and DJ said Sale threw a bad pitch to Trout -- a change up over the plate after he showed that he could not handle the fastball. At the end of the 7th inning inning Sale let up 2 hits before recording the 3rd out. He was at around 90-92 pitches. He came out for the 8th (no problems), let up a single, Alexei bobbles a sure out at 2nd (Sale is not up to 100 pitches with runners on 1st and 2nd with no outs), Sale then lets up another hit to make it bases loaded, another hit to score a run, and then Coop came out to talk to Sale who was at 115 or so pitches and left him in to face Trout and gave up a grand slam on a 3-2 pitch.... You make the judgement

QUOTE (scs787 @ Jun 8, 2014 -> 12:29 AM) I was counting his minor league start as well....He's been healthy enough to pitch for 5 starts now....At what point do you think they should take the kid gloves off and let him go back to being the guy that can give you 110+ pitches on a regular basis? With his elbow issues he has had in the past I don't think he should be going over 110 pitches on a regular bases unless it isn't a stressful 110 pitches.. That isn't really the point with this game. I am not upset he threw so many pitches or even came out for the 8th inning. But after the first 1 or 2 guys reach base he should have been taken out, end of story..

Here comes the downward spiral a week before I actually get to see the team play in person.. And right before we play the Tigers.. Horrible

QUOTE (scs787 @ Jun 8, 2014 -> 12:11 AM) And is he brought in Scott Downs people would still probably b****. It's its 5th start since coming off the DL...When do you take the kid gloves off? It was his 4th start off the DL. and one of those starts he only threw 40 pitches because of the rain..

QUOTE (scs787 @ Jun 8, 2014 -> 12:04 AM) "Aces" like Verlander, Sherzer, Lee, Hernandez, Price routinely go 110+ pitches. It's not like this is anything new. I wouldn't say he was exactly laboring either, he was still throwing the ball 94-96. It sucked, yes, and Robin isnt a great manager, but it's ridiculous the kinda hate I'm reading. If he hadn't been on the DL for a whole month because of his elbow I would be fine with him throwing that many pitches... it really isn't even about the pitch count. It was about the situation on the field

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 8, 2014 -> 12:04 AM) 94 MPH?? Stone/Hawk said it was a change up like 3 or 4 times. I never saw the MPH so I just assumed they were right and it looked slow.. Ok De Aza, just stare at the ball

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jun 8, 2014 -> 12:03 AM) Q against Angels is a bad matchup not expecting him to win. I feel the same...

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jun 8, 2014 -> 12:01 AM) This on the heels of Kershaw loss road trip not going well right now. If we can somehow pull out the game tomorrow we will still be .500 or if we lose, 2 games under which would be heartbreak considering

quick 9th inning I assume.... See, I told you guys. I had a bad feeling about this game..

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jun 7, 2014 -> 11:58 PM) Where the hell is Beckham playing on Aybar Apparently to pull..

I can't believe we are going to lose this game... 3 games completely blown in the past 2+ weeks

Fastball high!!

f*** off. s***ty ass inning.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 7, 2014 -> 11:52 PM) Please don't be one of these God-awful extra inning games where we use up every single reliever and lose in the 12th-14th. Almost rather they take a knockout blow right now. Well, no...can't quite agree to that. Trout was 1-10 against Sale coming into that AB. Cheated on the fastball. It was low, not a bad location. Just Trout was better in that instance. It was a change up low

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Jun 7, 2014 -> 11:48 PM) Sale should have absolutely started the 8th. All you people yelling and screaming about it AFTER THE FACT don't get any points from me. Were all of you saying he should be taken out after 7 innings when it actually happened? I must have missed that. But Sale should have never stuck around the face Trout, or really any batter after Alexei's error, that much should have been obvious. Agreed. After the first or 2nd guy reached he should have been out.. Pathetic

QUOTE (scs787 @ Jun 7, 2014 -> 11:45 PM) Wouldn't be surprised if it was Chris that wanted to go back out there after seeing how pissed he was after giving up those 2 hits...Regardless...f*** STEVE STONE I have no problem with him going out there in the 8th. But like I said after one base runner reached he should have been pulled

QUOTE (chisoxfan310 @ Jun 7, 2014 -> 11:44 PM) With about 95 pitches through 7 and a 5-0 lead (and a bullpen who really didn't pitch yesterday), I figured he would not have even started the inning. I thought the same. But figured he would get the chance to pitch a clean 8th and be taken out after one batter reached. But what do I know.

Seriously.. Why did he not take Sale out when loading the bases?

f*** off Robin/Coop

After the first hit he should have been taken out and that was that..

A lot of pitches for Sale. Not sure why he is still in this game..

This is not good...

What is going on here

Well there goes that..

Sit down