brett05

Ramirez

QUOTE (Iwritecode @ Apr 15, 2015 -> 01:52 PM) You are the common denominator in these frustrating arguments across multiple boards, not just here. Majority does not make right. Bad logic there.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 15, 2015 -> 01:43 PM) I did. I saw one guy in five years. why limit it? Can we get back to the game?

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Apr 15, 2015 -> 01:43 PM) well, had a chance. Agreed...at least the team did not quit

QUOTE (shysocks @ Apr 15, 2015 -> 01:42 PM) LOL you're ridiculous. and you are lazy

QUOTE (TitoMB @ Apr 15, 2015 -> 01:41 PM) you are frustrating. i can think of a million players who didn't re-sign early sooooooooooo Again, it's a myth and I provided the link to show that.

QUOTE (shysocks @ Apr 15, 2015 -> 01:41 PM) Instead of linking to his Wikipedia page and forcing us to read through a wall of text, NAME AN EXCEPTION. You're clearly well-versed in the history, it should be simple. I gave the link. Feel free to read up on it.

we got something going! Wahoo!!

QUOTE (TitoMB @ Apr 15, 2015 -> 01:39 PM) so how can you use Sale as evidence of your argument? lol I didn't. I used it as an example of signing early. This board is very frustrating.

QUOTE (TitoMB @ Apr 15, 2015 -> 01:38 PM) no...way. do you know who Scott Boras is? he hates us. he already forced us to overslot Rodon (right?). i see no way Rodon is a Sox pitcher beyond the 7 years of control. History says otherwise. But you are entitled.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 15, 2015 -> 01:37 PM) No he won't. and you are entitled to that belief.

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Apr 15, 2015 -> 01:38 PM) Sale isn't a Boras client. Never said he was

QUOTE (TitoMB @ Apr 15, 2015 -> 01:30 PM) so going back to Rodon, the argument is that he will re-sign with the Sox before the end of his 7th year? yes If Rodon is what we all hope he is he'll sign like Sale did

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 15, 2015 -> 01:15 PM) Can you name a couple? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Boras

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 15, 2015 -> 01:10 PM) OK, I'll bite. What do they do. They usually sign before the seventh year materializes.

QUOTE (shysocks @ Apr 15, 2015 -> 01:09 PM) I get the feeling you aren't exactly sure what you're arguing about. If Rodon spends x days off the 25-man roster this year, then he becomes a free agent one year later. That's the trade. I know exactly what I am arguing

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 15, 2015 -> 01:08 PM) What? You are trading his 7th season for 2 rookie starts. History shows when Rodon is eligible to become a free agent, he won't be pitching for the White Sox. Seriously, research what Boras quality clients do instead of believing in the myth

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 15, 2015 -> 12:56 PM) So for 2 April starts as a rookie, you are willing to trade April, May, June, July, August, September and any postseason starts when he is 28 or 29? As history shows you aren't trading anything if Rodon is the real deal.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 15, 2015 -> 12:53 PM) It has nothing to do when they sign. It has to do when they get put on the 25 man roster. Agreed, but we are past that point like 20 posts ago.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Apr 15, 2015 -> 12:52 PM) And the Sox would be foolish to throw away that 7th year leverage for 2 starts in April 2015. Retarded really if we don't care about being PC. Again, that leverage really isn't there. Ya can;t win it in April but you can lose it. The Sox have done that more than I care to remember.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Apr 15, 2015 -> 12:51 PM) As a 4th starter he just needs to have that 4.5 ERA and work into the 6th and hope our offense can keep pace. Unless he can get that 6ish ERA down, you're right, he doesn't deserve a spot. But I'm more concerned about the anemic offense so far. Some guys really need to wake ...up (hi Melky) It's just about every guy on the roster, not just Melky

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Apr 15, 2015 -> 12:49 PM) I'm glad you're not Hahn. Be that as it may, you cannot deny the truth of good Boras clients never seeing that year. Clients usually sign before hand.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Apr 15, 2015 -> 12:44 PM) They have plausible deniability -- but if you think they don't know that keeping him down 3 weeks at any point this season gives them another year of guaranteed control (on a Boras client nonetheless), well, your head is in the sand imo. Given the number of Boras clients who are good and never see that extra year I'd think not.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Apr 15, 2015 -> 12:41 PM) Yea that is wrong, wrong, wrong. Service time starts the day he's on the 25 man draft year has nothing to do with it. Sale's service time started the year he was drafted. But the Sox aren't keeping him down for service time reasons

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Apr 15, 2015 -> 12:39 PM) This is not true. It has also been detailed many times on the site. He can come up this weekend and Sox control his rights for 7 ML seasons (Including this one). That is what I am saying. They can bring him up now or later or anytime prior to Mid April and still have 7 years of control, no? If I am wrong, gotta a link to it? Thanks!