December 6, 20196 yr The first year is pro-rated for his suspension, so its really a 2 year ~$17.5M deal. Really surprised no one beat that in this market.
December 6, 20196 yr 5 hours ago, Capital G said: Good. Hopefully takes them out of the running for other SP. I was not a fan of landing him anyway. They need another, maybe even 2.
December 6, 20196 yr 18 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: The first year is pro-rated for his suspension, so its really a 2 year ~$17.5M deal. Really surprised no one beat that in this market. That was my expect sentiment when I saw the deal on twitter. Surprised Pineda could not get a larger commitment elsewhere given how pricy pitching has become. He's not a world beater, but is a solid #3/4 guy.
December 6, 20196 yr 52 minutes ago, steveno89 said: That was my expect sentiment when I saw the deal on twitter. Surprised Pineda could not get a larger commitment elsewhere given how pricy pitching has become. He's not a world beater, but is a solid #3/4 guy. How many all-in teams can afford to punt on the first 40 games of the season...? The Twins don’t consider the White Sox or Indians threats, yet, especially if CLE trades Lindor, Kluber and Jose Ramirez (likely 2/3.)
December 6, 20196 yr 15 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: How many all-in teams can afford to punt on the first 40 games of the season...? The Twins don’t consider the White Sox or Indians threats, yet, especially if CLE trades Lindor, Kluber and Jose Ramirez (likely 2/3.) I am not even sure I consider the Twins that much of threat. They still have 2 gigantic holes in the rotation (3 for the first 40 games), a hole at 1B or 3B, horrific IF defense, and their best OF can't stay on the field for more than week. The chances the Twins repeat their miracle 2019 is extremely low. They look like a slightly above .500 team right now. I suspect they'll sign some more pitching, and be the ALC favorite, but they have a lot of work to do as well, and have shown little ability to add impact FA. If you guy's think the Sox are cheap, the largest FA contract in franchise history to a position player is 3/$24M to Jason fuckin' Castro. Imagine that. Edited December 6, 20196 yr by ChiSox59
December 6, 20196 yr 4 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: I am not even sure I consider the Twins that much of threat. They still have 2 gigantic holes in the rotation (3 for the first 40 games), a hole at 1B or 3B, horrific IF defense, and their best OF can't stay on the field for more than week. The chances the Twins repeat their miracle 2019 is extremely low. They look like a slightly above .500 team right now. I suspect they'll sign some more pitching, and be the ALC favorite, but they have a lot of work to do as well, and have shown little ability to add impact FA. If you guy's think the Sox are cheap, the largest FA contract in franchise history to a position player is 3/$24M to Jason fuckin' Castro. Imagine that. This, I assume, is ignoring Mauer?
December 6, 20196 yr 1 minute ago, ChiSox59 said: I am not even sure I consider the Twins that much of threat. They still have 2 gigantic holes in the rotation (3 for the first 40 games), a hole at 1B or 3B, horrific IF defense, and their best OF can't stay on the field for more than week. The chances the Twins repeat their miracle 2019 is extremely low. They look like a slightly above .500 team right now. I suspect they'll sign some more pitching, and be the ALC favorite, but they have a lot of work to do as well, and have shown little ability to add impact FA. If you guy's think the Sox are cheap, the largest FA contract in franchise history to a position player is 3/$24M to Jason fuckin' Castro. Imagine that. They just offered 5 and $100 to Wheeler. The Mauer extension blows away anything the White Sox have done. They don’t sign external free agents because their farm system (see Tampa) used to produce a bucketload of them until the early 2010’s. One year, they went out and signed Santana, Hughes and Nicasio the same offseason for the rotation.
December 6, 20196 yr 2 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: They just offered 5 and $100 to Wheeler. The Mauer extension blows away anything the White Sox have done. They don’t sign external free agents because their farm system (see Tampa) used to produce a bucketload of them until the early 2010’s. One year, they went out and signed Santana, Hughes and Nicasio the same offseason for the rotation. I am aware of all of this. How'd those Santana, Hughes and Nolasko (not Nicasio) contracts work out? The Twins are a super cheap org. Unfortunately they are now run by two dudes who absolutely know what they're doing, but they're going to have serious financial restraints, and their window is now. Edited December 6, 20196 yr by ChiSox59
December 6, 20196 yr 3 minutes ago, mqr said: This, I assume, is ignoring Mauer? He wasn't a FA. It was an extension. That hampered their ability to spend money elsewhere for years and years and years.
December 6, 20196 yr We’ll see...Bumgarner to the Twins right now makes a ton of sense. That assumes Ryu wants to stay West. Edited December 6, 20196 yr by caulfield12
December 6, 20196 yr 10 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: We’ll see...Bumgarner to the Twins right now makes a ton of sense. That assumes Ryu wants to stay West. I'd love for the Twins to fork over $100M to Bumgarner.
December 6, 20196 yr 14 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: I'd love for the Twins to fork over $100M to Bumgarner. 4/$84 million
December 6, 20196 yr 1 hour ago, ChiSox59 said: I am aware of all of this. How'd those Santana, Hughes and Nolasko (not Nicasio) contracts work out? The Twins are a super cheap org. Unfortunately they are now run by two dudes who absolutely know what they're doing, but they're going to have serious financial restraints, and their window is now. Twins absolutely should go all in to win in 2020 because the White Sox will only be much stronger by 2021 onward. Sox are rising at a time the well coincides with the Royals, Tigers and especially Indians' decline.
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