3 hours ago, GreenSox said:

Ramos has had 119 major league plate appearances and turned 23 this year.
Seems a bit premature to dump him.
Also, he's only been up for 2 seasons; shouldn't he have an option?

Ramos was 1st added to the 40-man on November 15th, 2022, so they used options in 2023, 2024 and 2025. He will be out of options for 2026. That's on Hahn's skittishness of guys being taken out of high-A ball in the Rule 5. 

Edited September 12, 2025Sep 12 by WestEddy

1 hour ago, WestEddy said:

Ramos was 1st add to the 40-man on November 15th, 2022, so they used options in 2023, 2024 and 2025. He will be out of options for 2026. That's on Hahn's skittishness of guys being taken out of high-A ball in the Rule 5. 

So that was year 5 already as a pro? Damn you're right I was thinking Covid year college mindset. It counted even tho the entire season was wiped for the minors. Man that's wild they also decided to add Jose Ramirez coming off a 770 OPS in AA at age 22 with a quite hollow slash line however, OBP below 300.  If some team is silly enough to take those guys in the Rule 5 honestly you just eat it imo as it's pretty rare to have guys that raw taken in the rule 5 -- let alone actually amount to anything (or get sent back to you).

Holy s%*# we actually drafted Nick Avila in the 2022 rule 5! I remember that BS now dude was unplayable in spring. My god Hahn was horrific at the margins. The two position players that went of note in that year's rule 5 were Noda and Sobal. Both are basically replacement level players at this point, if that. Protecting Ramos there and guaranteeing him a free ride for at least a year on a full 40 man salary could not have helped his motivation. I'm happy for Ramos as he's a good guy and he's made probably like 1 million total from JR to play a sport he loves, even if he never will pan out as a big leaguer. 

Edited September 12, 2025Sep 12 by chitownsportsfan