soxtalker999 Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 Most of the discussions about possible Andrew Benintendi trades require that the Sox pay down a lot of his contract. There are usually related comments that (a) the difficulty of this under current ownership and (b) questions of whether it would be of interest to any other club. But have there been any suggestions of a trade similar to the Vaughn-Cavalli one, where the Sox might take on a pitcher with a contract that another team would like to unload? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 Whose LF is he better than? Therein lies the problem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxtalker999 Posted November 8 Author Share Posted November 8 33 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Whose LF is he better than? Therein lies the problem. Maybe look at it from a slightly different perspective. He could mainly be a DH - maybe even from just one side. If a team had a pitcher that has an expensive contract that is tough to move, perhaps they'd find such an exchange worthwhile. I'm not saying that this is likely, but I am just wondering if there are any such candidates out there. I don't recall anyone anticipating the Vaughn trade, but it sounded like Getz was fairly proactive when the opportunity arose. I don't think that either team was expecting it to turn out terribly well, but it gave each team options that were more useful to them at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 5 minutes ago, soxtalker999 said: Maybe look at it from a slightly different perspective. He could mainly be a DH - maybe even from just one side. If a team had a pitcher that has an expensive contract that is tough to move, perhaps they'd find such an exchange worthwhile. I'm not saying that this is likely, but I am just wondering if there are any such candidates out there. I don't recall anyone anticipating the Vaughn trade, but it sounded like Getz was fairly proactive when the opportunity arose. I don't think that either team was expecting it to turn out terribly well, but it gave each team options that were more useful to them at the time. Vaughn was also making about 1/3 of Benny, and even so we took on a similar contract to get it done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxtalker999 Posted November 8 Author Share Posted November 8 13 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Vaughn was also making about 1/3 of Benny, and even so we took on a similar contract to get it done. Agreed. Cavalli actually made more than Vaughn, so Milwaukee included cash. I'm guessing that the teams would need to balance out the costs of Benintendi's contract (which goes two years) and any possible pitcher candidate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 (edited) https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10144883-ranking-the-10-worst-mlb-contracts-on-the-books-for-2025-season Maybe if it was more money for 2026 but avoided 2027 obligations. https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/45880638/yankees-release-rhp-marcus-stroman The equivalent of Marcus Stroman next year...or A.Manoah in recent years. Edited November 8 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 9 Share Posted November 9 22 hours ago, soxtalker999 said: Agreed. Cavalli actually made more than Vaughn, so Milwaukee included cash. I'm guessing that the teams would need to balance out the costs of Benintendi's contract (which goes two years) and any possible pitcher candidate. They SHOULD just buy him out like a respectable MLB franchise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 9 Share Posted November 9 Getz has zero ties to Benintendi. Any other organization would have just looked at him as a sunk cost and cut ties. Its only JR's stubborn nature that he wants to extract as much value from a contract until the point of no return is reached...but ask every Sox fan about Benintendi and they will just shrug and offer that nothing will happen until the 2027 trade deadline, if there even is a season. With Robert and Benintendi both gone, they will have the lowest payroll in the majors by then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 9 Share Posted November 9 1 hour ago, caulfield12 said: Getz has zero ties to Benintendi. Any other organization would have just looked at him as a sunk cost and cut ties. Its only JR's stubborn nature that he wants to extract as much value from a contract until the point of no return is reached...but ask every Sox fan about Benintendi and they will just shrug and offer that nothing will happen until the 2027 trade deadline, if there even is a season. With Robert and Benintendi both gone, they will have the lowest payroll in the majors by then. Benny is a great argument that Getz doesn't have nearly as much freedom as we keep getting told, because one of two things would have to be true. Either Getz wants him on the roster, or Getz doesn't have the power to dump him. I know which one makes more sense to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 9 Share Posted November 9 1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said: Benny is a great argument that Getz doesn't have nearly as much freedom as we keep getting told, because one of two things would have to be true. Either Getz wants him on the roster, or Getz doesn't have the power to dump him. I know which one makes more sense to me Or they don't have the ability to make a one-time, lump sum payment without going to Ishbia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 9 Share Posted November 9 1 hour ago, caulfield12 said: Or they don't have the ability to make a one-time, lump sum payment without going to Ishbia. That's not how it works unless they negotiate a buyout, which isn't what happens if you release someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted November 9 Share Posted November 9 On 11/8/2025 at 10:22 AM, soxtalker999 said: Maybe look at it from a slightly different perspective. He could mainly be a DH - maybe even from just one side. If a team had a pitcher that has an expensive contract that is tough to move, perhaps they'd find such an exchange worthwhile. I'm not saying that this is likely, but I am just wondering if there are any such candidates out there. I don't recall anyone anticipating the Vaughn trade, but it sounded like Getz was fairly proactive when the opportunity arose. I don't think that either team was expecting it to turn out terribly well, but it gave each team options that were more useful to them at the time. What team would acquire Benintendi to stick him a DH? This scenario is even less likely than a team seeing him as am upgrade in LF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted November 9 Share Posted November 9 (edited) During Dallas Keuchel's last season with the Sox, his ERA was around 7.80, he was walking 5.9 per 9 IP, and putting on 2 baserunners an inning. Leury Garcia had an OPS+ of about 42 during a .500 season they were supposed to be competing in when he was released. Jeff Keppinger had an OPS+ of 64 when the Sox ate two years of his contract. Benintendi had an OPS+ of 104 last year, slightly better than average. I understand he's taking up ABs that could go to someone else, but I'm not sure why it's so important the White Sox DFA him and eat all $30M left on his deal. Edited November 10 by WestEddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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