Loaiza

[BrandoFan]

lol@the Cubs winning the world series.  They had that chance last year.  They'll never get that close again.

Look dope, if you can't see just why Cubs are the best team in NL when at full strenght, then you're beyond help.

 

They'll only get better when Hendry acquires a set-up man and possibly even Garciappara. They could live with Prior-Wood-Zambrano-Maddux in the postseason.

 

Do you honestly believe Woody Williams, Matt "lost velocity" Morris, Chris Carpenter and Jeff Suppan will stop them in the 2nd half?

[ZoomSlowik]

Don't count on them adding much. My bet is they blew their load last year getting Ramirez and Lofton, plus they added a bunch in the offseason. We are still talking about the Tribune Company. They are notorious for worrying more about the business end than the product on the field. I would not be surprised if they let Alou and Clement go at the end of the year in anticipation of ponying up major money for Prior and Zambrano. Besides, why the hell would the Red Sox trade Nomar when they are trying to make a playoff push? Cabrera or someone like Guardado maybe(would have to commit a lot of future money to Guardado). Teams like the Red Sox and Braves aren't going to cough up players when they are in the race.

[Rowand44]

Look dope, if you can't see just why Cubs are the best team in NL when at full strenght, then you're beyond help.

 

They'll only get better when Hendry acquires a set-up man and possibly even Garciappara.    They could live with Prior-Wood-Zambrano-Maddux in the postseason.

 

Do you honestly believe Woody Williams, Matt "lost velocity" Morris, Chris Carpenter and Jeff Suppan will stop them in the 2nd half?

First off why do you just make fun of people who disagree with you. You think the cubs are a lock to be in the ws and that's just ridiculous. You seem to love stats so why don't you look at nomars splits away from fenway, the flubs can have him. Zambrano was awful in the playoffs this year and he gets way to pumped up for big games and that really hurts him. Maddux right now is the defintion of mediocre. The flubs have no closer and really not a very good bullpen. The flubs have a very good team but they seem to be in 2nd place right now so I wouldn't say they're a lock for the world series.

[BrandoFan]

You think the cubs are a lock to be in the ws and that's just ridiculous.

No, I think you and others are f***ing idiots if you can't make the distinction between someone saying that a team is THE best and THE most playoff-ready team in the NL (which Cubs so clearly are poised to be in the 2nd half)............. and saying that that team is a "lock".

[BrandoFan]

Don't count on them adding much. My bet is they blew their load last year getting Ramirez and Lofton, plus they added a bunch in the offseason. We are still talking about the Tribune Company.

So?

 

Cubs are rolling in cash.

 

Tribune is just beginning to realize that WINNING makes the bottomline even better

 

For them to swallow 3 Mill on the Clement-Garciappara swap (one is owed 6 in the 2nd half, the other - 3) and then maybe 2 more on, say, Urbina.......is nothing.

 

This Cub team will still win 95+ games - and that WITHOUT Prior, Wood, Sosa (and now Ramirez) in the line-up for a while in the 1st half.

 

Hendry should continue adding because it's rare when you can assemble a team THAT playoff-ready when healthy.

[Jordan4life_2007]

Look dope, if you can't see just why Cubs are the best team in NL when at full strenght, then you're beyond help.

 

They'll only get better when Hendry acquires a set-up man and possibly even Garciappara.    They could live with Prior-Wood-Zambrano-Maddux in the postseason.

 

Do you honestly believe Woody Williams, Matt "lost velocity" Morris, Chris Carpenter and Jeff Suppan will stop them in the 2nd half?

lol..listen asshole. I don't give a f*** how DOMINANT or how UNBELIEVABLE you think the Cubs are. You're probably one of the same cocksuckers that said the Marlins had NO CHANCE at beating Prior and Wood in gm's 6 and 7 last year. When the Cubs ACTUALLY win a world series. You get back to me. In the mean time..Take your lame ass over to northsidebasebll.com. Everyday you're either starting threads or making posts on how GODLY the Cubs are. Take the authenic battery operated Cubs dildo outta your ass for just one day..

[BrandoFan]

lol..listen asshole.  I don't give a f*** how DOMINANT or how UNBELIEVABLE you think the Cubs are.

That's because you're a biased moron, and there is not a goddamn thing you can do to change that.

 

If I were you, I'd be super-happy that Cubs didn't sweep the Marlins (they were 2 great diving stops by Alex Gonzalez, both on Sosa's missiles in late innings with a GW run in scoring position, away from losing Game 1 - and with that the entire NLCS in only 4 games) last year, and that God himself intervened in the 8th inning of Game 6......and NOT expect another such miracle again.

 

Cubs are a truly dominant team when healthy, and unless both Prior and Wood can't pitch in the postseason due to injuries (which is a remote possibility), I see Cubs doing some major damage therein.

 

The only thing Sox can do is get Randy Johnson at any cost and hope Cubs are knocked off by a wild card team peaking at the right time. Then the South Side could have some glory to call its own.

[Jordan4life_2007]

That's because you're a biased moron, and there is not a goddamn thing you can do to change that.   

 

If I were you, I'd be super-happy that Cubs didn't sweep the Marlins (they were 2 great diving stops by Alex Gonzalez, both on Sosa's missiles in late innings with a GW run in scoring position, away from losing Game 1 - and with that the entire NLCS in only 4 games) last year, and that God himself intervened in the 8th inning of Game 6......and NOT expect another such miracle again.   

 

Cubs are a truly dominant team when healthy, and unless both Prior and Wood can't pitch in the postseason due to injuries (which is a remote possibility), I see Cubs doing some major damage therein.   

 

The only thing Sox can do is get Randy Johnson at any cost and hope Cubs are knocked off by a wild card team peaking at the right time.  Then the South Side could have some glory to call its own.

Once again, Dickhead. That's YOUR opinion. I don't think the Cubs r dominant. They're a good team. They have a chance to be great. Just because you're shooting your load now doesn't mean that you're gonna be right. When the Cubs win a world series "which they won't" you can get back on here and say how right you were. And as far as all the "what ifs" of last year's post-season. I hear the bulls*** from Cub fans everyday. You can slice it anyway you want. They pulled one of the BIGGEST CHOKE JOBS IN BASEBALL HISTORY. They'll never get that close again. That's my opinion. I could care less if you agree with it or not.

[ZoomSlowik]

Back to the original topic, which was Loaiza(I'm sick of this Cubs s***. Talented team, but haven't put everything together, and it may never happen). I gotta say that if he is seeking #1 or #2 starter money we send him on his way. If he asks for anything more than about $5 mil we gotta let him go. We need all the money we can get to sign Garcia and Maggs. Plus, we could get some quality pitchers that are younger in free agency if one or the other goes.

[BobDylan]

Ok, he tanked against the Cubs last year, got beat by O'Leary and Karros, I said it could happen to anybody, whatever.

 

Does he redeem himself in 2004 by shutting the Cubs down twice?  No he does everything in his power to lose BOTH games..  Last week, he got lucky that Cubs just missed a couple of HR and offense T-d off on Maddux.    This weekend, he wasn't as lucky - Sox offense totally choked (again) in front of the national audience, and E-Lo got a loss he so richly deserved handed to him.

 

His armspeed from 2003 is all but a memory. He doesn't have the velocity or the extra movement on his cutter.    He is just chillin' out there on the mound, no intensity.    This is E-Lo from pre-2003 days.

 

Adios and take Garland with you.

The fact is that he pitches like a pussy. It takes him 4 innings to realize that he needs to throw the ball inside.

[Jordan4life_2007]

Back to the original topic, which was Loaiza(I'm sick of this Cubs s***. Talented team, but haven't put everything together, and it may never happen). I gotta say that if he is seeking #1 or #2 starter money we send him on his way. If he asks for anything more than about $5 mil we gotta let him go. We need all the money we can get to sign Garcia and Maggs. Plus, we could get some quality pitchers that are younger in free agency if one or the other goes.

Blame Spando for the Cubs nonsense. Anyways. If Loaiza pitches like he did in 03 in this upcoming 2nd half then I think we do everything to keep him. If not, f*** him.

[DBAHO]

Blame Spando for the Cubs nonsense.  Anyways.  If Loaiza pitches like he did in 03 in this upcoming 2nd half then I think we do everything to keep him.  If not,  f*** him.

I'm sure some team like Texas will offer him a good deal, there will be a demand for him, and he'll at least get a Miguel Batista type fo deal, probably a bit more.

[Rowand44]

I'm sure some team like Texas will offer him a good deal, there will be a demand for him, and he'll at least get a Miguel Batista type fo deal, probably a bit more.

Speaking of Batista, I wonder if kw is still going after him, I'd love to some how acquire Batista.

[DBAHO]

Speaking of Batista, I wonder if kw is still going after him,  I'd love to some how acquire Batista.

J.P Riccardi has 4 untouchables, Roy Halliday (I remember when Brando wanted him in the 1st month, funny stuff), Ted Lilly (made the all star team ahead of Buerhle!?), Vernon Wells, and Miguel Batista. Heard a rumor of a 3 way deal with Delgado going to Boston, Nomar going to L.A, and Cezar Isturis and prospects going to Toronto.

[BrandoFan]

The fact is that he pitches like a pussy. It takes him 4 innings to realize that he needs to throw the ball inside.

Again, it's not as simple as throwing inside.

 

ML hitters will kill you if you come in their wheelhouse on hitter's counts - and E-Lo is falling behind like crazy.

 

E-Lo knows that since he can't reach 92-94 anymore, he can't blow it by people. Hitters know it too, so they work off his breaking stuff more.

 

E-Lo doesn't have the stuff or the pin-point control this season to do what he did in 2003. His fastball is not as intimidating, his cutter isn't as quick as it used to be, and subsequently his change and slider are less effective as well.

 

I am very disappointed in him. Had he pitched like E-Lo in 2003, he would have won on Friday. Sox take a 3-1 lead in the series, which means Diaz comes out firing because there is NO pressure on him anymore. He probably wins. Or even if he doesn't, Glendon Rusch takes the mound tonight in a do-or-die situation and most likely chokes.

 

Sox win the series at least 4-2 - maybe even 5-1 and go on a huge inspired winning streak and never look back on the Twins.

 

My god, E-Lo....what could have been.

[Rowand44]

J.P Riccardi has 4 untouchables, Roy Halliday (I remember when Brando wanted him in the 1st month, funny stuff), Ted Lilly (made the all star team ahead of Buerhle!?), Vernon Wells, and Miguel Batista. Heard a rumor of a 3 way deal with Delgado going to Boston, Nomar going to L.A, and Cezar Isturis and prospects going to Toronto.

Oh, I never heard that Miguel was untouchable. I remember I heard bruce levine said that kw contacted riccardi about acquiring batista and that they weren't ready to deal him yet. I really didn't know if that meant he wouldnt trade him or if they just wanted to wait. But yeah that makes sense that they wouldn't trade him, he's signed for 3 more years right?