December 27, 200421 yr Milton signed a contract with the reds at almost the exact same value as Matt Clement's. With a 4.75 ERA, the question is...did the reds overpay for Milton, and is the trend this offseason overpaying for sp's who arent really that good???
December 27, 200421 yr hmmm im still glad he didnt sign with the indians wasnt he rumored to go there??? or im thinking of millwood nevermind
December 27, 200421 yr hmmm im still glad he didnt sign with the indians wasnt he rumored to go there??? or im thinking of millwood nevermind Millwood signed with the indians.
December 28, 200421 yr I like RotoWorlds take on this signing.... Eric Milton received a three-year, $25.5 million contract from the Reds. $8.5 million per season for a pitcher with a career ERA of 4.76. This just might be the worst deal of the offseason, which is really saying something. Milton receives a $4 million signing bonus, $4 million in 2005, $8.5 million in 2006 and $9 million in 2007. He can opt out of the final year of the deal just in case he actually exceeds expectations. We put the chances of that happening at 1.9 percent. Dec. 27
December 28, 200421 yr Somebody here did the numbers and GAB played like a fair park last year, which is not what we have heard or would think. Milton is a good pitcher but not a great one. Until we get to see more seasons out of the Phillie Park, it's hard to judge exactly how bad 4.75 is.
December 28, 200421 yr I like RotoWorlds take on this signing.... Eric Milton received a three-year, $25.5 million contract from the Reds. $8.5 million per season for a pitcher with a career ERA of 4.76. This just might be the worst deal of the offseason, which is really saying something. Milton receives a $4 million signing bonus, $4 million in 2005, $8.5 million in 2006 and $9 million in 2007. He can opt out of the final year of the deal just in case he actually exceeds expectations. We put the chances of that happening at 1.9 percent. Dec. 27 They'll surprise you at Rotoworld sometimes. One time they referred to KW's man-crush on Borch.
December 28, 200421 yr I thought it was a typo when I first saw those numbers... that really may be the worst contract of this offseason.... which is saying a lot... why wouldn't the Reds be in on the Clement signing if they're going to spend that type of money?
December 28, 200421 yr why wouldn't the Reds be in on the Clement signing if they're going to spend that type of money? Simple, they are the reds.
December 28, 200421 yr Simple, they are the reds. They might just have to contract that team with more moves like this.
December 28, 200421 yr Well don't they also have a terrible contract for Jr.??? I think that says it all really....
December 28, 200421 yr There have been more than one horrible contract this year. The money spent on some of thesemedoicre, or even some good but not great, players in simply unreal. I look at the Dodger signing of JD Drew and good ballplayer for sure, but $11M a year for 5 years for a guy who was injured lots and had only one real good season? And that season was last year. A history of being able to play a full season for more than one year is something I think a team should look at. Milton's contract sucks and so does some of the others. I am glad we don't overpay for mediocrity. But, I will say I wish we would pay for some of the better ones out there.
December 28, 200421 yr Would you rather have Milton or Benson for about the same cash? I really don't know. I'd choose neither were it an option but I'd take Milton at gunpoint simply because he's left-handed. As far as Junior Griffey's bad contract goes, yes it is high and unmoveable but Griff signed below market value. It's hard to fault Bowden or the Reds for bringing him in when you take away the supreme benefit of hindsight.
December 28, 200421 yr The Reds GM was on ESPN Radio All-Night last night and he and the host were talking about Milton like he was Roger Clemens circa 1986... It was insanity... the GM had this smug tone like he just pulled off a major coup... Not once did they mention his numbers... They were referring to him as an "elite" level FA...
December 28, 200421 yr It amazes me how little some of these guys care about winning. Milton is rumored to the Yankees and ends up on the Reds, a team who has no chance of finishing higher than fourth in the division for the duration of the contract.
December 28, 200421 yr Regardless how much most of these guys say they want to win... it almost always comes down to money!!
December 28, 200421 yr The Reds GM was on ESPN Radio All-Night last night and he and the host were talking about Milton like he was Roger Clemens circa 1986... It was insanity... the GM had this smug tone like he just pulled off a major coup... Not once did they mention his numbers... They were referring to him as an "elite" level FA... Well you have to remember where he's going. I'm glad we didn't sign the guy. Milton may not be great, but he's certainly not that bad. I'm glad the Reds are at least trying.
December 28, 200421 yr any pitcher is elite for the reds when you look at their staff, i mean their best pitcher is paul wilson!!!!!
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