Every time I watch some asshole on TV talk about how the president f***ed up this or should have done that I think to myself "Why SHOULD he reach out to the other side?"  The truth is that the left hates Bush so much that it doesn't make any difference what he does, they'll just hate him more.  Better to just bury them so deep in the minority that their shrill voices don't sound quite so annoying.

 

Every time I watch some asshole on TV, it usually turns out to be Bush.

Well that's their job not mine.

 

 

I keep forgetting you're Canadian. LOL

Every time I watch some asshole on TV, it usually turns out to be Bush.

 

 

I rest my case.

I rest my case.

 

 

LMFAO. :rolly

 

Please learn the facts.  It will prevent the future utterance of horribly assinine comments.

 

I have. I was studying the effects of transglobal terrorism since 1999.

 

I remember the bipartisan terror commission meeting in 2000. I remember producing an interview with one of the chairs in the summer of 2001 saying "We can't get anyone in the government to listen and this problem is urgent."

 

But hey, I'm sure you have like what, 30 minutes experience, studying transglobal terror?

Go right ahead, but remember that the reason your side lost the last election is because the best platform you could come up with was "Bush sucks, elect me".  People would much rather vote FOR something rather than AGAINST something.

 

How many Bush voters did you meet that couldn't frame their vote in any other message than "better than Kerry." More people voted for John Kerry than Ronald Reagan in 1984.

 

John Kerry got over 48.3% of the vote despite being outspent, and without the media machine that the Bush administration had. Despite all the advantages of incumbency, George Bush won with the smallest margin of any reelected president since Woodrow Wilson, and failed to capture even 51% of the vote. (Final tallies have him at about 50.7%)

 

John Kerry did have a real plan. He did have a positive vision for America. Too bad people were caught up in things like Swift Boat, John Kerry calling a lesbian a lesbian, and an idiotic slip of the tongue about an 87 billion dollar budget vote. But if you listened in the debates, or read his book. You'd have seen a vision that ain't too shabby for this country.

How many Bush voters did you meet that couldn't frame their vote in any other message than "better than Kerry." More people voted for John Kerry than Ronald Reagan in 1984.

 

How about 4 more years? And that point about Kerry receiving more votes than Reagan is mute. More people voted this election percentage wise not to mention that there are more people in the United States. I also believe I heard that Bush got the most votes in presidential history.

Yes, you'd be correct. Kerry got the second highest vote total. Over 58 million voters voted for change.

 

But I guess that means nothing to you.

How about 4 more years?    And that point about Kerry receiving more votes than Reagan is mute. More people voted this election percentage wise not to mention that there are more people in the United States. I also believe I heard that Bush got the most votes in presidential history.

 

Yes he did get more votes, but the percentage of votes cast that he received gives a more telling picture of the state of the union.

Yeah I know it's percentage that counts, but that's a mute point saying that Kerry got more votes than Reagan.

Over 58 million voters voted for change.

 

But I guess that means nothing to you.

 

And they lost. But I guess that means nothing to you.

Yeah I know it's percentage that counts, but that's a mute point saying that Kerry got more votes than Reagan.

 

 

This is such a stupid point ot be arguing. First of all the population has gone up quite a bit in the last 20 years and the turnout was higher as well. Of course candidates today are going to get a higher vote total than Reagan did, even if they lose.

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This is such a stupid point ot be arguing. First of all the population has gone up quite a bit in the last 20 years and the turnout was higher as well.  Of course candidates today are going to get a higher vote total than Reagan did,  even if they lose.

Wow, I agree w/ Nuke on something in this forum. All this comparing vote totals is so silly, whether it's Bush or Kerry. Both candidates were so good that they each got more votes than George Washington! I know, it's not just here. I've heard pundits talking about this stuff. But what a waste of time.

The Bash Bush platform didn't work. You Democrats really need to try another approach. Maybe an actual platform will work in 2008 ... or are they afraid the American people will reject a democratic platform with a Mondale-esque emphasis?

This is such a stupid point ot be arguing. First of all the population has gone up quite a bit in the last 20 years and the turnout was higher as well.  Of course candidates today are going to get a higher vote total than Reagan did,  even if they lose.

 

Reagan won 49 states, 58.77% ov the vote and won the EC 525 - 13!

 

But, I guess that doesn't matter. I don't know what any of this has to do with Kerry / Bush / Iraq.

Wow, I agree w/ Nuke on something in this forum.  All this comparing vote totals is so silly, whether it's Bush or Kerry.  Both candidates were so good that they each got more votes than George Washington!  I know, it's not just here.  I've heard pundits talking about this stuff.  But what a waste of time.

The Bash Bush platform didn't work.  You Democrats really need to try another approach.  Maybe an actual platform will work in 2008 ... or are they afraid the American people will reject a democratic platform with a Mondale-esque emphasis?

Yes, and rightly so considering that the Republicans control the Senate, House, a majority of Governorships, State Houses and State Senates. I'd be afraid too if I were them.

I'm not bashing the President, I'm defending my freedom from stupid policy.

 

I'm sure the President is a nice guy. His policies I disagree with. Because they are wrong for America.

I'm not bashing the President, I'm defending my freedom from stupid policy.

 

I'm sure the President is a nice guy. His policies I disagree with. Because they are wrong for America.

Wino, I absolutely respect that. You do an excellent job, unlike many, of expressing your disagreements and backing them with fact. Too many just bash to bash.

It's not hard, when your right

It's not hard, when your right

Here I go and say something nice and you had to go there. I take it all back!