Agreed.  I used to think that O'Reilly was an obnoxious blow-hard.  But then I sat down and watched a week's worth of The Factor a couple years ago and changed my mind.  I don't agree with everything he says and think that he can be a bit repetitive at times... but about 90% of what he says is worth listening to.

 

And Kip's assertion that O'Reilly "spawns hate for Canada" is just plain stupid.  All Bill did was call out the Candadian media for having a liberal bias (he's done the same for the BBC, the New York Times, the LA Times, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, etc.).  I've never heard him fire off a personal attack on a Canadian.  And I'll bet that Kip's never even watched The Factor and is just regurgitating the obnoxious crap that the CBC planted into his head.

 

Lay off Kip.....for now....he did say he'd watch O'reilly now that its available in his area and let us know what he thinks.

 

I have to admit I'm somewhat curious.

Does every industry have a bias? Could we call some industries liberal or conservative? Obviously Hollywood tends to be liberal, which ones are conservative?

Does every industry have a bias? Could we call some industries liberal or conservative? Obviously Hollywood tends to be liberal, which ones are conservative?

 

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Does every industry have a bias? Could we call some industries liberal or conservative? Obviously Hollywood tends to be liberal, which ones are conservative?

 

Political Talk Radio?

Does every industry have a bias? Could we call some industries liberal or conservative? Obviously Hollywood tends to be liberal, which ones are conservative?

 

The banking/investment industries, the pharmaceutical/biotech industries, and professional sports, to name a few.

Does every industry have a bias? Could we call some industries liberal or conservative? Obviously Hollywood tends to be liberal, which ones are conservative?

 

Automotive Industry

Tobacco Industry

 

EDIT:

Oil Industry

Weapons Industry

Wal-Mart

 

All the powerful industries

 

Edited March 3, 200521 yr by KipWellsFan

Automotive Industry

Tobacco Industry

 

EDIT:

Oil Industry

Weapons Industry

Wal-Mart

 

All the powerful industries

 

 

 

The biggest, and most obvious, difference though is that the media industry has a great deal of power in swaying people's opinions of the issues by the nature of it's work and that's why when the news is reported it's very important that it is done in a non-partisan manner.

The biggest, and most obvious, difference though is that the media industry has a great deal of power in swaying people's opinions of the issues by the nature of it's work and that's why when the news is reported it's very important that it is done in a non-partisan manner.

 

So if a liberal watched the news and said, it's fair and balanced, you would assume the news had a liberal slant?

So if a liberal watched the news and said, it's fair and balanced, you would assume the news had a liberal slant?

 

 

No, I would watch and make my own decisions.

The biggest, and most obvious, difference though is that the media industry has a great deal of power in swaying people's opinions of the issues by the nature of it's work and that's why when the news is reported it's very important that it is done in a non-partisan manner.

And the teachers have a lot of power over children. The teacher's Union is one of the most powerful Unions.

And the teachers have a lot of power over children. The teacher's Union is one of the most powerful Unions.

 

 

Not to mention that college professors are slanted VERY far to the left.

Not to mention that college professors are slanted VERY far to the left.

 

Well doesn't that also concern you in that college professors are supposed to be very intelligent?

No, I would watch and make my own decisions.

 

What percentage of the population can do that?

Well doesn't that also concern you in that college professors are supposed to be very intelligent?

 

I concerns me because the student body is buying into that crap for that very reason.

I concerns me because the student body is buying into that crap for that very reason.

 

College professors are intelligent, but intelligence doesn't make one an expert in everything. Professors are experts in their fields, but not necessarily anything outside of that.

Not to mention that college professors are slanted VERY far to the left.

Actually, my stats professor always tells us its much better to be conservative. Less type one errors.

Well I finally watched The O'Reilly Factor tonight and for the most part it was what I expected. Here's what I got out of it and some other random observations.

 

First off I've never seen a commentator compliment his guest as much as he does (ie you're obviously a good person, you're a good american, you have a good head on your shoulders type thing). Also, I haven't seen a commentator interrupt or talk over a guest as much as he does since I last watched Crossfire.

 

Anyways on to the meat and potatoes of my summary. After viewing it once, it seems that this show's goal is to pit the right against the left and I'd say to the extent of the right being the good guys and the left being the bad guys. All the topics on this episode were displayed this way.

 

1.Colorado U. President stepping down

-O'Reilly uses very simple minded arguments like Churchill is a Traitor and his work was nothing but propaganda. This subject is obviously way to complicated to do in a 7 or 8 minute segment and to simply to throw harsh terms at the subject is ineffective and repetitive.

 

2.Diplomat attempted child Rape story

-It could be made an argument that this was more about taking shots at people of brown colored skin but O'Reilly didn't really say anything like this. His guest got into issues of law and that was pretty boring, O'Reilly was obviously bored too.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washingt..._avoid_charges/

 

3.Weed Book

-Next O'Reilly had a guy on who wrote a book about Marijuana for kids. The author tried to make up something about how this will actually prevent kids from using pot even though pot is obviously portrayed in a favourable manner in this book. O'Reilly wasn't buying it and neither am I.

http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0509,pietras,61592,6.html

 

4.Virginia Islam School where man accused of plotting to kill Bush went

-This was interesting but the guests he had on were students from many years ago at the school and didn't really have anything interesting to say. Then O'Reilly cornered them into answering the question "Does Al-Qaeda need to be completely destroyed" which had nothing to do with the subject and was completely unrelated and it pissed me and the guests off.

 

5.Moore speech cancelled by school

-This was more about bashing Moore than about the school. Certainly not very interesting segment, especially for a Canadian.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles...academic_honor/

 

6.Guy suing Tsunami warners

-This is obviously a shot at frivalous lawsuits and the conspiracist in me says it's also a shot at John Edwards. Nonetheless the lawsuit was stupid.

http://www9.sbs.com.au/theworldnews/region...105394&region=2

 

Anyways no real surprises here, this really isn't news program and I guess it's not supposed to be. I've also never seen a program anywhere near as bias as this and I have no idea what "you're entering the no spin zone" means. Well I won't be watching again, so I'll probably never find out.

I watched some show on Fox today that had a guy who wrote a book on Rather ripping him for a lack of credibility. What publication/station did he work for? That would be the National Enquirer.......

Not to mention that college professors are slanted VERY far to the left.

Like that f***ing Physco in Colorado who said the victims in the WTC were little Ikeman

Like that f***ing Physco in Colorado who said the victims in the WTC were little Ikeman

 

Dare I say somebody missed a few days in school for spelling and grammar? I keed I keed.

this is the s*** we have to listen to when hockey gets canceled?

Well I finally watched The O'Reilly Factor tonight and for the most part it was what I expected.  Here's what I got out of it and some other random observations.

 

First off I've never seen a commentator compliment his guest as much as he does (ie you're obviously a good person, you're a good american, you have a good head on your shoulders type thing).  Also, I haven't seen a commentator interrupt or talk over a guest as much as he does since I last watched Crossfire.

 

Anyways on to the meat and potatoes of my summary.  After viewing it once, it seems that this show's goal is to pit the right against the left and I'd say to the extent of the right being the good guys and the left being the bad guys.  All the topics on this episode were displayed this way.

 

1.Colorado U. President stepping down

-O'Reilly uses very simple minded arguments like Churchill is a Traitor and his work was nothing but propaganda.  This subject is obviously way to complicated to do in a 7 or 8 minute segment and to simply to throw harsh terms at the subject is ineffective and repetitive.

 

2.Diplomat attempted child Rape story

-It could be made an argument that this was more about taking shots at people of brown colored skin but O'Reilly didn't really say anything like this.  His guest got into issues of law and that was pretty boring, O'Reilly was obviously bored too.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washingt..._avoid_charges/

 

3.Weed Book

-Next O'Reilly had a guy on who wrote a book about Marijuana for kids.  The author tried to make up something about how this will actually prevent kids from using pot even though pot is obviously portrayed in a favourable manner in this book.  O'Reilly wasn't buying it and neither am I.

http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0509,pietras,61592,6.html

 

4.Virginia Islam School where man accused of plotting to kill Bush went

-This was interesting but the guests he had on were students from many years ago at the school and didn't really have anything interesting to say.  Then O'Reilly cornered them into answering the question "Does Al-Qaeda need to be completely destroyed" which had nothing to do with the subject and was completely unrelated and it pissed me and the guests off.

 

5.Moore speech cancelled by school

-This was more about bashing Moore than about the school.  Certainly not very interesting segment, especially for a Canadian.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles...academic_honor/

 

6.Guy suing Tsunami warners

-This is obviously a shot at frivalous lawsuits and the conspiracist in me says it's also a shot at John Edwards.  Nonetheless the lawsuit was stupid.

http://www9.sbs.com.au/theworldnews/region...105394&region=2

 

Anyways no real surprises here, this really isn't news program and I guess it's not supposed to be.  I've also never seen a program anywhere near as bias as this and I have no idea what "you're entering the no spin zone" means.  Well I won't be watching again, so I'll probably never find out.

 

 

Actually, of everyone on the GOP Media Network, O'Reilly is my Fav. He will take on GOP wrongs and compliment DEM rights quicker and without choking.

 

Down here people can listen to these programs and know the host is human and has some bias and then make their own choices, they get confused however, when they hear a news report minutes before. That presumed bias, is evil and must be stomped out.

this is the s*** we have to listen to when hockey gets canceled? 

 

Actually, of everyone on the GOP Media Network, O'Reilly is my Fav. He will take on GOP wrongs and compliment DEM rights quicker and without choking.

 

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I agree. That's why I can't stand him!