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QUOTE(ChiSoxFan @ May 23, 2005 -> 11:47 PM)
Just say NO to ESPN.

yea, i usually only watch SC and BBTN for the highlights only, but this OLN is really interesting and actually makes sense, talkin about how all of the teams in those cities that dominate have historic stadiums, recognizable stars, and historic and unchanged unis.

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QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ May 23, 2005 -> 11:58 PM)
Well the Cubs changed their uni's a couple of times. Ken Rosenthal said that if the White Sox win the World Series, he thinks the balance of power will shift to us. Only if he really knew.

i actually think that hes right. I mean think about it. A lot of the Cubs "fans" right now are just casual sports fans, who go to a few games, but dont get too much into the teams. Both the cubs and sox have their hardcore fans, who know everything about the team, go to a lot of games, and would never switch sides, but the reason the cubs are bigger is cuz of the general sports fan, we have none of those. If we won the WS i would guarantee that these casual fans and some other baseball fans would immediatley jump on the sox bandwagon.

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QUOTE(shagar69 @ May 23, 2005 -> 11:02 PM)
i actually think that  hes right. I mean think about it. A lot of the Cubs "fans" right now are just casual sports fans, who go to a few games, but dont get too much into the teams.  Both the cubs and sox have their hardcore fans, who know everything about the team, go to a lot of games, and would never switch sides, but the reason the cubs are bigger is cuz of the general sports fan, we have none of those. If we won the WS i would guarantee that these casual fans and some other baseball fans would immediatley jump on the sox bandwagon.

If you look closely some of them already have. I see a lot more Sox logos around town right about now.

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QUOTE(shagar69 @ May 24, 2005 -> 05:02 AM)
i actually think that  hes right. I mean think about it. A lot of the Cubs "fans" right now are just casual sports fans, who go to a few games, but dont get too much into the teams.  Both the cubs and sox have their hardcore fans, who know everything about the team, go to a lot of games, and would never switch sides, but the reason the cubs are bigger is cuz of the general sports fan, we have none of those. If we won the WS i would guarantee that these casual fans and some other baseball fans would immediatley jump on the sox bandwagon.

 

Dream on.

The casual fan needs more than baseball, that's part of what makes them casual fans. I think you might see a slight shift, but until the area around the Cell has more going on, fuhgetaboutit.

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Don't you guys remember 1991-1994? This town was a Sox town through and through during those years. We outdrew the Cubs, Wrigleyville was still a dump, and the Cubs couldn't make a right decision.

 

Only in the past ten years has this become a definitively Cubs town, and only because of Sammy Sosa, Harry Carey's death, the gentrification of Lakeview and a freer-spending tribune company.

 

If the Sox consistently make the playoffs for 2-3 years and draw well, and if any kind of development happens in the area around the Cell, this'll be a Sox town again.

 

The Cubs are seriously in dire straits with the way things have played out this season. Wood's career is all but over in my opinion (he won't even win 100 games in his career. Can you believe that?), Garciaparra looks like he's done, and the Cubs don't have any bullpen to protect their good starters. Plus, they now are extraordinarily weak in the outfield, positions where you really need power, especially in the NL. They might lose 90-100 games this season if the wheels come off and I can't see them being good next season with the impending firing of Baker (again, my opinion). They've overstretched their budget and the tribune co. is probably sick of dealing with Hendry.

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QUOTE(Hideaway Lights @ May 24, 2005 -> 09:39 AM)
Don't you guys remember 1991-1994? This town was a Sox town through and through during those years. We outdrew the Cubs, Wrigleyville was still a dump, and the Cubs couldn't make a right decision.

 

Only in the past ten years has this become a definitively Cubs town, and only because of Sammy Sosa, Harry Carey's death, the gentrification of Lakeview and a freer-spending tribune company.

 

If the Sox consistently make the playoffs for 2-3 years and draw well, and if any kind of development happens in the area around the Cell, this'll be a Sox town again.

 

The Cubs are seriously in dire straits with the way things have played out this season. Wood's career is all but over in my opinion (he won't even win 100 games in his career. Can you believe that?), Garciaparra looks like he's done, and the Cubs don't have any bullpen to protect their good starters. Plus, they now are extraordinarily weak in the outfield, positions where you really need power, especially in the NL. They might lose 90-100 games this season if the wheels come off and I can't see them being good next season with the impending firing of Baker (again, my opinion). They've overstretched their budget and the tribune co. is probably sick of dealing with Hendry.

 

The Cubs situation isn't nearly as dire as you think. They have $16 million of Sosa's coming off of the books next year, and if they can't get Nomar healthy, they have another $7 million or so to spend. Plus they have some solid prospects coming through the system to help a few of their shortcomings. As much as I would like the Cubs to fall apart, there is sunlight on the horizon.

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