Illini Appeal Chief Illiniwek Decision

Tuesday's action involves an NCAA decision that would require the university to drop the Chief mascot and logo.

 

 

Urbana, IL -- The University of Illinois has filed another appeal in the Chief Illiniwek controversy.

 

Tuesday's action involves an NCAA decision that would require the university to drop the Chief mascot and logo before it could host any post-season athletic competition.

 

The appeal is the university's second attempt to persuade the NCAA to reverse its decision that Chief Illiniwek was an example of "hostile and abusive" American Indian imagery.

 

The university says its latest appeal challenges the National Collegiate Athletic Association's power to impose such rules.

 

The policy is scheduled to take effect Wednesday, but university spokesman Tom Hardy says the university asked the committee to postpone enforcement.

 

An NCAA spokesman didn't immediately return a message seeking comment today.

 

 

Associated Press

Alan Wagmeister , Special Projects Producer 

created: 1/31/2006 12:10:06 PM

Last updated: 1/31/2006 1:13:33 PM

 

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Even if this fails, the university has IMO done a good job switching the focus of university athletics from the chief to the color orange in general.

Yeah, and turning the heat to the NCAA, not the university. They can just say "it's the ncaa, we had no choice" even though i think they all want to get rid of the Chief anyway.

Even if this fails, the university has IMO done a good job switching the focus of university athletics from the chief to the color orange in general.

that's a good point that I've never thought about before.

Yeah, and turning the heat to the NCAA, not the university. They can just say "it's the ncaa, we had no choice" even though i think they all want to get rid of the Chief anyway.

 

Yeah, that it a very good point. The NCAA has actually provided the university with a way out of a difficult situation. They can still keep the alumni happy in that they are pushing the appeal process as far as it can go. On a personal note, it will be very sad to see the Chief go, but the handwriting has been on the wall for some time now.

Yeah, that it a very good point.  The NCAA has actually provided the university with a way out of a difficult situation.  They can still keep the alumni happy in that they are pushing the appeal process as far as it can go.  On a personal note, it will be very sad to see the Chief go, but the handwriting has been on the wall for some time now.

honestly as long as the nickname stays (which it will), I won't be too upset over any of this.

So I understand if all these appeals fail, that the dancing mascot dude is gone. But will they also have to lose the cartoon Indianhead logo with the headdress?

So I understand if all these appeals fail, that the dancing mascot dude is gone.  But will they also have to lose the cartoon Indianhead logo with the headdress?

the university doesn't even make that anymore. If you look closely, all of the offical NCAA merchandise will have the I logo instead.

 

Although, I'm pretty sure Nike still makes stuff with the chief logo as do all the independent stores.

honestly as long as the nickname stays (which it will), I won't be too upset over any of this.

Who could be upset over losing a white guy dressed as a native american doing a gymnastics routine?

My only problem is that Chief Illiniwek is considered "hostile", but that Indian guy that throws a flaming spear into the 50 yard line at FSU isn't. As usual with the NCAA, it's all about the $$$

My only problem is that Chief Illiniwek is considered "hostile", but that Indian guy that throws a flaming spear into the 50 yard line at FSU isn't.  As usual with the NCAA, it's all about the $$$

Well, illiniwek is also considered "racist"

Well, illiniwek is also considered "racist"

 

And a white guy in an indian suit throwing a spear into the turf isn't racist? They are either both are or both aren't, I just ask for consistency.

Edited February 1, 200620 yr by whitesoxfan101

And a white guy in an indian suit throwing a spear into the turf isn't racist?  They are either both are or both aren't, I just ask for consistency.

Ask, stanford, Miami University,Dartmouth, Marquette, Syracuse, Stanford, Oklahoma, St. John's etc. Its happened before, and they didnt have a gymnastic routine at halftime. All it takes is for one person to make a stink, and poof, its gone.

 

Also, the NCAA has taken action against FSU for their mascot. FSU has been appealing the suit. Also the seminole nation in FLA has filed an approval and support for their mascot and its activties. Whilst in Illinois, the major Native Amerian nations and boards in Illinois have been fighting its use for some time. Check out the movie "In Whose Honor: for more info. Also there are several orgs who are against Illiniwek including:U.S. Dept. of Justice, U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, NCAA Minority Opportunities & Interests Committee, Nat'l Education Association, Nat'l Coalition on Racism in Sports & the Media, UIUC Chancellor's Committee on Diversity, UIUC Student Government, ISU Student Government, NAACP-CU Chapter, Nat'l Organization for Women-CU Chapter, UIUC's College of Medicine, School of Life Sciences, Counseling Center Staff, and Departments of Anthropology, English, History, Psychology, Sociology and many more!

Edited February 1, 200620 yr by RockRaines

I'm not for Chief Illiwek at all, in fact I tend to agree it would be better for it gone. I just think that the FSU mascot is equally racist, even though the Seminole trible "approves of it" because of all the money FSU pays them to keep quiet. This is all about the $, not what is right, but hey that's nothing new with the NCAA.

I'm not for Chief Illiwek at all, in fact I tend to agree it would be better for it gone.  I just think that the FSU mascot is equally racist, even though the Seminole trible "approves of it" because of all the money FSU pays them to keep quiet.  This is all about the $, not what is right, but hey that's nothing new with the NCAA.

Technically, the NCAA banned the mascot from postseason play and have moved against its usage moving forward. It has been appealed by FSU. So really, its FSU's fault for why its not gone yet. But it will be.

Technically, the NCAA banned the mascot from postseason play and have moved against its usage moving forward.  It has been appealed by FSU.  So really, its FSU's fault for why its not gone yet.  But it will be.

 

As soon as the FSU mascot is gone, get rid of Chief Illiwek and I won't say a word. There simply shouldn't be exceptions to the rule....but the rule itself I have no problem with.

As soon as the FSU mascot is gone, get rid of Chief Illiwek and I won't say a word.  There simply shouldn't be exceptions to the rule....but the rule itself I have no problem with.

I just listed many schools who have already been forced to get rid of theirs. So should Illinois. Its not like they are asking you to change your mascot and name all together like some of those schools. You say you are in favor of gettting rid of the chief, yet you sound like a whiny fan saying, "well, how come HE gets to have it."

I just listed many schools who have already been forced to get rid of theirs.  So should Illinois. Its not like they are asking you to change your mascot and name all together like some of those schools.  You say you are in favor of gettting rid of the chief, yet you sound like a whiny fan saying, "well, how come HE gets to have it."

 

This has nothing to do with Illinois, it has to do with the fact that the NCAA gets rid of all the Indian Mascots, yet lets certain schools win appeals. Either keep them all or dump them all is all I'm saying.

This has nothing to do with Illinois, it has to do with the fact that the NCAA gets rid of all the Indian Mascots, yet lets certain schools win appeals.  Either keep them all or dump them all is all I'm saying.

Well, it seems like they are dumping them all. Illinois was one of the schools who was winning appeals, and appeared to be immune. Schools like my alma-mater, Miami, lost in this process over 6 years ago even with the support of the tribe.

Well, illiniwek is also considered "racist"

False. Nor is this the issue at hand. If it were, we'd have to change our name to the Illinois Orange or some s***.

This has nothing to do with Illinois, it has to do with the fact that the NCAA gets rid of all the Indian Mascots, yet lets certain schools win appeals.  Either keep them all or dump them all is all I'm saying.

Ding ding ding we have a winner

Who could be upset over losing a white guy dressed as a native american doing a gymnastics routine?

More than you think. You don't go here, so your opinion means nothing.

False. Nor is this the issue at hand. If it were, we'd have to change our name to the Illinois Orange or some s***.

Oh, I didnt know that it was called Univeristy of Illinois Illiniwek.

 

Oh and PS, im sure there are ALOT of people who DO go to your school who think it is racist. Here is the short list: UIUC Chancellor's Committee on Diversity, UIUC Student Government, ISU Student Government, NAACP-CU Chapter, Nat'l Organization for Women-CU Chapter, UIUC's College of Medicine, School of Life Sciences, Counseling Center Staff, and Departments of Anthropology, English, History, Psychology, Sociology

Edited February 1, 200620 yr by RockRaines

Illini, smartass. Illinois, Illini. Get it? Brilliant!

Ding ding ding we have a winner

Ok, name all of these schools that are exceptions to this rule, and I will beat that list with a number of schools who have already been forced to change their mascot.