April 13, 200620 yr QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Apr 13, 2006 -> 04:55 AM) No, that's true. There's very few cases like the Adam Dunn's of the world. But, Dunn's value isn't just in his OBP, it's combined with the fact that he's going to hit 70-80 x-tra basehits a year. Oh, yeah, and he's 26 friggin' years old... I don't know why, but when I think of Adam Dunn, I also think of Reggie Jackson for some reason. Reggie's Career Numbers We're talking about completely different eras, and Reggie was also a monster in the playoffs, but if you look at their stats at pretty much the same age, the similarities are kind of scary. If Dunn can stay healthy, he will break Reggie's strikeout record. That said, I'll take him on my team as a cleanup-hitting DH any day. He is beyond butcher status out there in left field.
April 13, 200620 yr QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Apr 13, 2006 -> 02:07 PM) I think the reason people like SLG% and OBP more than batting average is because the former two have proven to correlate better with scoring runs than the latter (over the course of a 162 game season -- in the playoffs this changes). And Jason, it's all relative. I mean, yeah, you can say OBP is overrated, but you have to put it in a context. What I'm saying is, if you have a player who is making $8 million a year, but his only real asset is his OBP (say he's putting up a .250/.375/.375 line), then of course he's going to be overrated. OBP isn't the be-all, end-all, and I doubt any real saber fan would tell you that. You have to mix and match it with other things (such as defense, power, position relativity -- ie, is this a catcher or a right-fielder?). If I'm building a team, OBP is going to be extremely important for the first 2 hitters in my lineup, for the obvious reasons. The middle of the lineup should obviously be able to hit. Then it gets interesting in the bottom of the order. Do you want your Bill Mueller's who will have a slightly better OBP or a Joe Crede who won't but will probably hit for more power? It's an interesting argument. OBP alone as Keith said won't make you a great player however.
April 14, 200620 yr They may be good and all, but where are they going to get the money from to lock up this young talent when they reach FA in a few years?
April 14, 200620 yr This was a great day for Caballo fans. Robbing a homer and another beautiful catch along the wall on Edmonds. And that homer was crushed against Izzy. I've been smiling all day!
April 14, 200619 yr Lee saves the game for the Brew Crew by taking away a HR from Juan Encarnacion in the 10th inning and then leads off the 11th with a HR of his own against Isringhausen. Heck of a day for El Caballo!
April 14, 200619 yr QUOTE(Cuck the Fubs @ Apr 13, 2006 -> 09:39 PM) They may be good and all, but where are they going to get the money from to lock up this young talent when they reach FA in a few years? They dont, they trade them before their become FA's and rebuild with prospects. This is the model you have to follow when you are small market.
April 14, 200619 yr QUOTE(Elcaballo45 @ Apr 13, 2006 -> 09:56 PM) This was a great day for Caballo fans. Robbing a homer and another beautiful catch along the wall on Edmonds. And that homer was crushed against Izzy. I've been smiling all day! Ya, he stepped it up late in the game.
April 15, 200619 yr QUOTE(RockRaines @ Apr 14, 2006 -> 08:27 AM) They dont, they trade them before their become FA's and rebuild with prospects. This is the model you have to follow when you are small market. This new owner may have a different MO than the old ones.
April 16, 200619 yr They dont, they trade them before their become FA's and rebuild with prospects. This is the model you have to follow when you are small market. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The Moneyball? Or the "Tribe-ball"?
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