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Sammy beating his wife

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K be ready, steff will now wish bad things on you, too. :rolleyes:

Oh get a f***ing clue.

 

Lord, if you people who think the world is just black and white had to live in the grey area for just 5 seconds you'd be amazed. Take a look at the DV stats boys. They don't lie.

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Oh get a f***ing clue.

 

Lord, if you people who think the world is just black and white had to live in the grey area for just 5 seconds you'd be amazed. Take a look at the DV stats boys. They don't lie.

I know your life is based on your decisions. If you choose to stay in an abusive relationship, youre telling yourself thats what you deserve. Those people are dumbasses. TRUST ME, i know all about abuse.

Oh get a f***ing clue.

 

Lord, if you people who think the world is just black and white had to live in the grey area for just 5 seconds you'd be amazed. Take a look at the DV stats boys. They don't lie.

I know your life is based on your decisions. If you choose to stay in an abusive relationship, youre telling yourself thats what you deserve. Those people are dumbasses. TRUST ME, i know all about abuse.

obviously you dont know enough.......some people are not choosing to stay they have no choice but to stay..... years of abuse made them think that way................untill you have walked in those shoes (which i hope you never have to) then dont go pointing the fingers and saying you need to do this or that.......experiencs is part of lifes lessons..........

Steff you seem to have some SERIOUS issues that you made need to address. I have never met another male more into protecting women than me. Sammy Sosa is a piece of s*** for raising a hand to a woman and shes a dumbass for taking it. Its clear cut.

Yes Bmr.. I have issues with people who are BLIND. Just because YOU wouldn't hit a female doesn't mean others wouldn't. And even the strongest females are scared to leave an abuser. Go visit a shelter sometime. Or look at the female next to you when you're out next time. The law of averages says she's been a victim of some sort of DV and NOT told anyone about it.

Their fault? :huh: I stand up for myself. If other people dont, they hey, its on them.

It's obvious you're missing the point.. surprise, surprise.

 

When a 180lb man is bullying a 100lb woman who has small children to think about. Who threatens to harm her and her children if she tells or leaves. The choice to stay to protect those children is very great. Ask your mother her thoughs on this topic. My guess is that it's just your idiotic testosterone clouding your judgement.

Oh get a f***ing clue.

 

Lord, if you people who think the world is just black and white had to live in the grey area for just 5 seconds you'd be amazed. Take a look at the DV stats boys. They don't lie.

I know your life is based on your decisions. If you choose to stay in an abusive relationship, youre telling yourself thats what you deserve. Those people are dumbasses. TRUST ME, i know all about abuse.

Drug abuse doesn't count.

 

 

And from your statements alone I know for a FACT you don't know s*** about this topic.

Oh get a f***ing clue.

 

Lord, if you people who think the world is just black and white had to live in the grey area for just 5 seconds you'd be amazed. Take a look at the DV stats boys. They don't lie.

I know your life is based on your decisions. If you choose to stay in an abusive relationship, youre telling yourself thats what you deserve. Those people are dumbasses. TRUST ME, i know all about abuse.

obviously you dont know enough.......some people are not choosing to stay they have no choice but to stay..... years of abuse made them think that way................untill you have walked in those shoes (which i hope you never have to) then dont go pointing the fingers and saying you need to do this or that.......experiencs is part of lifes lessons..........

Ummm i was abused as a kid. THAT is having no choice. I dont care if the guy is 1000 pounds. He hits you more than once, YOU f***ING LEAVE.

Oh get a f***ing clue.

 

Lord, if you people who think the world is just black and white had to live in the grey area for just 5 seconds you'd be amazed. Take a look at the DV stats boys. They don't lie.

I know your life is based on your decisions. If you choose to stay in an abusive relationship, youre telling yourself thats what you deserve. Those people are dumbasses. TRUST ME, i know all about abuse.

Drug abuse doesn't count.

 

 

And from your statements alone I know for a FACT you don't know s*** about this topic.

GO get you therapy on the subject instead of throwing your self guilt on other people.

Oh get a f***ing clue.

 

Lord, if you people who think the world is just black and white had to live in the grey area for just 5 seconds you'd be amazed. Take a look at the DV stats boys. They don't lie.

I know your life is based on your decisions. If you choose to stay in an abusive relationship, youre telling yourself thats what you deserve. Those people are dumbasses. TRUST ME, i know all about abuse.

obviously you dont know enough.......some people are not choosing to stay they have no choice but to stay..... years of abuse made them think that way................untill you have walked in those shoes (which i hope you never have to) then dont go pointing the fingers and saying you need to do this or that.......experiencs is part of lifes lessons..........

Ummm i was abused as a kid. THAT is having no choice. I dont care if the guy is 1000 pounds. He hits you more than once, YOU f***ING LEAVE.

NO CHOICE...??? Did your mommy leave Bmr...?

Oh get a f***ing clue.

 

Lord, if you people who think the world is just black and white had to live in the grey area for just 5 seconds you'd be amazed. Take a look at the DV stats boys. They don't lie.

I know your life is based on your decisions. If you choose to stay in an abusive relationship, youre telling yourself thats what you deserve. Those people are dumbasses. TRUST ME, i know all about abuse.

obviously you dont know enough.......some people are not choosing to stay they have no choice but to stay..... years of abuse made them think that way................untill you have walked in those shoes (which i hope you never have to) then dont go pointing the fingers and saying you need to do this or that.......experiencs is part of lifes lessons..........

Ummm i was abused as a kid. THAT is having no choice. I dont care if the guy is 1000 pounds. He hits you more than once, YOU f***ING LEAVE.

NO CHOICE...??? Did your mommy leave Bmr...?

uh does that make sense cuz i have no idea what youre talking about.

Oh get a f***ing clue.

 

Lord, if you people who think the world is just black and white had to live in the grey area for just 5 seconds you'd be amazed. Take a look at the DV stats boys. They don't lie.

I know your life is based on your decisions. If you choose to stay in an abusive relationship, youre telling yourself thats what you deserve. Those people are dumbasses. TRUST ME, i know all about abuse.

Drug abuse doesn't count.

 

 

And from your statements alone I know for a FACT you don't know s*** about this topic.

GO get you therapy on the subject instead of throwing your self guilt on other people.

I don't need any. Thankfully I was never a victim. But I did volunteer for 3 years at 2 different shelters and learned first hand what these people (women and MEN) deal with. When I walked in I had your stupid attitude. Until I learned the facts and the trama in their lives.

Guilt...? You bet I have guilt. I wish I could help every single person who is beat on. Unfortunately so much of it is never reported.

Oh get a f***ing clue.

 

Lord, if you people who think the world is just black and white had to live in the grey area for just 5 seconds you'd be amazed. Take a look at the DV stats boys. They don't lie.

I know your life is based on your decisions. If you choose to stay in an abusive relationship, youre telling yourself thats what you deserve. Those people are dumbasses. TRUST ME, i know all about abuse.

obviously you dont know enough.......some people are not choosing to stay they have no choice but to stay..... years of abuse made them think that way................untill you have walked in those shoes (which i hope you never have to) then dont go pointing the fingers and saying you need to do this or that.......experiencs is part of lifes lessons..........

Ummm i was abused as a kid. THAT is having no choice. I dont care if the guy is 1000 pounds. He hits you more than once, YOU f***ING LEAVE.

you cant always leave..............sometimes life doesnt leave that choice up for an option...........

Oh get a f***ing clue.

 

Lord, if you people who think the world is just black and white had to live in the grey area for just 5 seconds you'd be amazed. Take a look at the DV stats boys. They don't lie.

I know your life is based on your decisions. If you choose to stay in an abusive relationship, youre telling yourself thats what you deserve. Those people are dumbasses. TRUST ME, i know all about abuse.

Drug abuse doesn't count.

 

 

And from your statements alone I know for a FACT you don't know s*** about this topic.

GO get you therapy on the subject instead of throwing your self guilt on other people.

I don't need any. Thankfully I was never a victim. But I did volunteer for 3 years at 2 different shelters and learned first hand what these people (women and MEN) deal with. When I walked in I had your stupid attitude. Until I learned the facts and the trama in their lives.

Guilt...? You bet I have guilt. I wish I could help every single person who is beat on. Unfortunately so much of it is never reported.

I wish i could help them too. HELP THEM LEAVE.

Oh get a f***ing clue.

 

Lord, if you people who think the world is just black and white had to live in the grey area for just 5 seconds you'd be amazed. Take a look at the DV stats boys. They don't lie.

I know your life is based on your decisions. If you choose to stay in an abusive relationship, youre telling yourself thats what you deserve. Those people are dumbasses. TRUST ME, i know all about abuse.

obviously you dont know enough.......some people are not choosing to stay they have no choice but to stay..... years of abuse made them think that way................untill you have walked in those shoes (which i hope you never have to) then dont go pointing the fingers and saying you need to do this or that.......experiencs is part of lifes lessons..........

Ummm i was abused as a kid. THAT is having no choice. I dont care if the guy is 1000 pounds. He hits you more than once, YOU f***ING LEAVE.

you cant always leave..............sometimes life doesnt leave that choice up for an option...........

No situation is hopeless.

Oh get a f***ing clue.

 

Lord, if you people who think the world is just black and white had to live in the grey area for just 5 seconds you'd be amazed. Take a look at the DV stats boys. They don't lie.

I know your life is based on your decisions. If you choose to stay in an abusive relationship, youre telling yourself thats what you deserve. Those people are dumbasses. TRUST ME, i know all about abuse.

obviously you dont know enough.......some people are not choosing to stay they have no choice but to stay..... years of abuse made them think that way................untill you have walked in those shoes (which i hope you never have to) then dont go pointing the fingers and saying you need to do this or that.......experiencs is part of lifes lessons..........

Ummm i was abused as a kid. THAT is having no choice. I dont care if the guy is 1000 pounds. He hits you more than once, YOU f***ING LEAVE.

NO CHOICE...??? Did your mommy leave Bmr...?

uh does that make sense cuz i have no idea what youre talking about.

LOL.. you have no idea. Go figure.

 

But I'll go slower for you..

 

It makes perfect sense.. you said you were abused as a child and had no choice. I asked if your mother left the abuser. You did have a mom, right...?

 

Did she not have a choice to leave?

Oh get a f***ing clue.

 

Lord, if you people who think the world is just black and white had to live in the grey area for just 5 seconds you'd be amazed. Take a look at the DV stats boys. They don't lie.

I know your life is based on your decisions. If you choose to stay in an abusive relationship, youre telling yourself thats what you deserve. Those people are dumbasses. TRUST ME, i know all about abuse.

Drug abuse doesn't count.

 

 

And from your statements alone I know for a FACT you don't know s*** about this topic.

GO get you therapy on the subject instead of throwing your self guilt on other people.

I don't need any. Thankfully I was never a victim. But I did volunteer for 3 years at 2 different shelters and learned first hand what these people (women and MEN) deal with. When I walked in I had your stupid attitude. Until I learned the facts and the trama in their lives.

Guilt...? You bet I have guilt. I wish I could help every single person who is beat on. Unfortunately so much of it is never reported.

I wish i could help them too. HELP THEM LEAVE.

Well.. if they weren't so scared they were going to get KILLED or BEAT again they might tell someone, right?

 

Good grief... :bang

Oh get a f***ing clue.

 

Lord, if you people who think the world is just black and white had to live in the grey area for just 5 seconds you'd be amazed. Take a look at the DV stats boys. They don't lie.

I know your life is based on your decisions. If you choose to stay in an abusive relationship, youre telling yourself thats what you deserve. Those people are dumbasses. TRUST ME, i know all about abuse.

obviously you dont know enough.......some people are not choosing to stay they have no choice but to stay..... years of abuse made them think that way................untill you have walked in those shoes (which i hope you never have to) then dont go pointing the fingers and saying you need to do this or that.......experiencs is part of lifes lessons..........

Ummm i was abused as a kid. THAT is having no choice. I dont care if the guy is 1000 pounds. He hits you more than once, YOU f***ING LEAVE.

NO CHOICE...??? Did your mommy leave Bmr...?

uh does that make sense cuz i have no idea what youre talking about.

LOL.. you have no idea. Go figure.

 

But I'll go slower for you..

 

It makes perfect sense.. you said you were abused as a child and had no choice. I asked if your mother left the abuser. You did have a mom, right...?

 

Did she not have a choice to leave?

Hmmm maybe thats why the subject pisses me off huh?

Oh get a f***ing clue.

 

Lord, if you people who think the world is just black and white had to live in the grey area for just 5 seconds you'd be amazed. Take a look at the DV stats boys. They don't lie.

I know your life is based on your decisions. If you choose to stay in an abusive relationship, youre telling yourself thats what you deserve. Those people are dumbasses. TRUST ME, i know all about abuse.

obviously you dont know enough.......some people are not choosing to stay they have no choice but to stay..... years of abuse made them think that way................untill you have walked in those shoes (which i hope you never have to) then dont go pointing the fingers and saying you need to do this or that.......experiencs is part of lifes lessons..........

Ummm i was abused as a kid. THAT is having no choice. I dont care if the guy is 1000 pounds. He hits you more than once, YOU f***ING LEAVE.

you cant always leave..............sometimes life doesnt leave that choice up for an option...........

No situation is hopeless.

You're right. But when you have no money. No transportation. No self esteem. No one to trust. Makes it a wee bit hard.

Oh get a f***ing clue.

 

Lord, if you people who think the world is just black and white had to live in the grey area for just 5 seconds you'd be amazed. Take a look at the DV stats boys. They don't lie.

I know your life is based on your decisions. If you choose to stay in an abusive relationship, youre telling yourself thats what you deserve. Those people are dumbasses. TRUST ME, i know all about abuse.

obviously you dont know enough.......some people are not choosing to stay they have no choice but to stay..... years of abuse made them think that way................untill you have walked in those shoes (which i hope you never have to) then dont go pointing the fingers and saying you need to do this or that.......experiencs is part of lifes lessons..........

Ummm i was abused as a kid. THAT is having no choice. I dont care if the guy is 1000 pounds. He hits you more than once, YOU f***ING LEAVE.

you cant always leave..............sometimes life doesnt leave that choice up for an option...........

No situation is hopeless.

You're right. But when you have no money. No transportation. No self esteem. No one to trust. Makes it a wee bit hard.

You still try. I KNOW youre not going to argue that, so why in fact, are you???

Oh get a f***ing clue.

 

Lord, if you people who think the world is just black and white had to live in the grey area for just 5 seconds you'd be amazed. Take a look at the DV stats boys. They don't lie.

I know your life is based on your decisions. If you choose to stay in an abusive relationship, youre telling yourself thats what you deserve. Those people are dumbasses. TRUST ME, i know all about abuse.

obviously you dont know enough.......some people are not choosing to stay they have no choice but to stay..... years of abuse made them think that way................untill you have walked in those shoes (which i hope you never have to) then dont go pointing the fingers and saying you need to do this or that.......experiencs is part of lifes lessons..........

Ummm i was abused as a kid. THAT is having no choice. I dont care if the guy is 1000 pounds. He hits you more than once, YOU f***ING LEAVE.

NO CHOICE...??? Did your mommy leave Bmr...?

uh does that make sense cuz i have no idea what youre talking about.

LOL.. you have no idea. Go figure.

 

But I'll go slower for you..

 

It makes perfect sense.. you said you were abused as a child and had no choice. I asked if your mother left the abuser. You did have a mom, right...?

 

Did she not have a choice to leave?

Hmmm maybe thats why the subject pisses me off huh?

Well then wait a minute.. you're saying Sosa's wife was a dumbass for staying. Yet you had a mother who stayed? I'm assuming you don't think your mother is a dumbass and the abuse endured was HER fault.. right?

Obviously there were circumstances beyond her control that didn't allow her to just walk out, am I close? So why does that make it a "sad" situation for you and your family.. but makes it Sonia's fault she got beat up?

Steff maybe one day youll see every situation isnt clear cut and based JUST on YOUR experience.

Oh get a f***ing clue.

 

Lord, if you people who think the world is just black and white had to live in the grey area for just 5 seconds you'd be amazed. Take a look at the DV stats boys. They don't lie.

I know your life is based on your decisions. If you choose to stay in an abusive relationship, youre telling yourself thats what you deserve. Those people are dumbasses. TRUST ME, i know all about abuse.

obviously you dont know enough.......some people are not choosing to stay they have no choice but to stay..... years of abuse made them think that way................untill you have walked in those shoes (which i hope you never have to) then dont go pointing the fingers and saying you need to do this or that.......experiencs is part of lifes lessons..........

Ummm i was abused as a kid. THAT is having no choice. I dont care if the guy is 1000 pounds. He hits you more than once, YOU f***ING LEAVE.

NO CHOICE...??? Did your mommy leave Bmr...?

uh does that make sense cuz i have no idea what youre talking about.

LOL.. you have no idea. Go figure.

 

But I'll go slower for you..

 

It makes perfect sense.. you said you were abused as a child and had no choice. I asked if your mother left the abuser. You did have a mom, right...?

 

Did she not have a choice to leave?

Hmmm maybe thats why the subject pisses me off huh?

Well then wait a minute.. you're saying Sosa's wife was a dumbass for staying. Yet you had a mother who stayed? I'm assuming you don't think your mother is a dumbass and the abuse endured was HER fault.. right?

Obviously there were circumstances beyond her control that didn't allow her to just walk out, am I close? So why does that make it a "sad" situation for you and your family.. but makes it Sonia's fault she got beat up?

Yeah something kept her. Selfishness and weakness.

Oh get a f***ing clue.

 

Lord, if you people who think the world is just black and white had to live in the grey area for just 5 seconds you'd be amazed. Take a look at the DV stats boys. They don't lie.

I know your life is based on your decisions. If you choose to stay in an abusive relationship, youre telling yourself thats what you deserve. Those people are dumbasses. TRUST ME, i know all about abuse.

obviously you dont know enough.......some people are not choosing to stay they have no choice but to stay..... years of abuse made them think that way................untill you have walked in those shoes (which i hope you never have to) then dont go pointing the fingers and saying you need to do this or that.......experiencs is part of lifes lessons..........

Ummm i was abused as a kid. THAT is having no choice. I dont care if the guy is 1000 pounds. He hits you more than once, YOU f***ING LEAVE.

you cant always leave..............sometimes life doesnt leave that choice up for an option...........

No situation is hopeless.

You're right. But when you have no money. No transportation. No self esteem. No one to trust. Makes it a wee bit hard.

You still try. I KNOW youre not going to argue that, so why in fact, are you???

I'm not. I'm arguing the fact that you say it's the victim's fault. It is NOT! You think they ask to be beat? Did YOU?

Oh get a f***ing clue.

 

Lord, if you people who think the world is just black and white had to live in the grey area for just 5 seconds you'd be amazed. Take a look at the DV stats boys. They don't lie.

I know your life is based on your decisions. If you choose to stay in an abusive relationship, youre telling yourself thats what you deserve. Those people are dumbasses. TRUST ME, i know all about abuse.

obviously you dont know enough.......some people are not choosing to stay they have no choice but to stay..... years of abuse made them think that way................untill you have walked in those shoes (which i hope you never have to) then dont go pointing the fingers and saying you need to do this or that.......experiencs is part of lifes lessons..........

Ummm i was abused as a kid. THAT is having no choice. I dont care if the guy is 1000 pounds. He hits you more than once, YOU f***ING LEAVE.

you cant always leave..............sometimes life doesnt leave that choice up for an option...........

No situation is hopeless.

You're right. But when you have no money. No transportation. No self esteem. No one to trust. Makes it a wee bit hard.

You still try. I KNOW youre not going to argue that, so why in fact, are you???

I'm not. I'm arguing the fact that you say it's the victim's fault. It is NOT! You think they ask to be beat? Did YOU?

I NEVER said any such thing. ITS SOSAS fault, and shes a dumbasses for taking it. I never said anything different.

No game thread, and the most active thread on the Sox board is on domestic violence. It is official, we suck.

Steff maybe one day youll see every situation isnt clear cut and based JUST on YOUR experience.

I never said it was. It's the gray area I tried to point out to you earlier in this thread. YOU discounted it.

 

YOU said it was her fault. She should have left. But yet here comes a life experience that you were in where you were not removed from the situation. Does that make it your mom's fault? No.

 

Get it?

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