BearSox Posted September 10, 2006 Share Posted September 10, 2006 Yes, he was having control problems, but Boone Logan couldn't throw a strike either, and McCarthy threw straight fastballs right down the middle as his strikes. Why put all the blame on Tracey? I don't think he even gave up an earned run. He's got good stuff and potential, and had a shakey outing. Now everyone wants him gone? give me a break. If you want to blame someone for this game, blame the offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted September 10, 2006 Share Posted September 10, 2006 Chad tracey is good in my book. Though, sean tracey sucks a ss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted September 10, 2006 Share Posted September 10, 2006 heh Chad Tracey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted September 10, 2006 Author Share Posted September 10, 2006 I keep on mixing up Chad and Sean for some reason, I don't know why. I know his name is Sean, but I keep on calling him Chad... Can a Mod please fix the title of my post to Sean please. okay, now it is Dick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted September 10, 2006 Share Posted September 10, 2006 Fixed. And hop off on the typo people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted September 10, 2006 Author Share Posted September 10, 2006 Don't get me wrong, Tracey did suck ass tonight, but he shouldn't get more blame then McCarthy or Logan or the offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHAMBARONS Posted September 10, 2006 Share Posted September 10, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Sep 10, 2006 -> 04:29 PM) I like Chad Tracey. Decent 3B, really cheap, and putting up some decent numbers this season. He will also be on the trade block according to the AZ media. Edited September 10, 2006 by BHAMBARONS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSHAWKS Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(rangercal @ Sep 10, 2006 -> 06:28 PM) Chad tracey is good in my book. Though, sean tracey sucks a ss Spencer Tracy is also good. Edited September 11, 2006 by MSHAWKS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgaudin Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 QUOTE(MSHAWKS @ Sep 10, 2006 -> 06:57 PM) Spencer Tracy is also good. There's also this guy.....Dick Tracy........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 QUOTE(BearSox @ Sep 10, 2006 -> 06:28 PM) Yes, he was having control problems, but Boone Logan couldn't throw a strike either, and McCarthy threw straight fastballs right down the middle as his strikes. Why put all the blame on Tracey? I don't think he even gave up an earned run. He's got good stuff and potential, and had a shakey outing. Now everyone wants him gone? give me a break. If you want to blame someone for this game, blame the offense. White Sox fans like to jump to conclusions, and they also tend to flock together. If one does, they all do. Pretty sad. I like what Tracey brings. I doubt he pitches another inning with the Sox all year, unless they're eliminated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSHAWKS Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Sep 10, 2006 -> 08:16 PM) White Sox fans like to jump to conclusions, and they also tend to flock together. If one does, they all do. Pretty sad. I like what Tracey brings. I doubt he pitches another inning with the Sox all year, unless they're eliminated. What, in your opinion, does Tracey bring that any average AAA reliever couldn't also bring? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 What's with all the Chad Tracy love? His numbers this year look similar to Crede's before 2006. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Sep 10, 2006 -> 08:32 PM) What's with all the Chad Tracy love? His numbers this year look similar to Crede's before 2006. Chad Tracy ~ Aaron Rowand offensively Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 QUOTE(MSHAWKS @ Sep 10, 2006 -> 08:26 PM) What, in your opinion, does Tracey bring that any average AAA reliever couldn't also bring? Not a ton. Good stuff, funny looking delivery...he can be effective. He'll never be a closer, but JFC, give the guy a chance. Let him throw in some situations where he'll be comfortable, instead of a high pressure situation where he is where one mistake kills him. My turn. What, in your opinion, has Sean Tracey done to deserve any of the amount of flack he receives? He's pitched like 4 innings, got ripped apart and thrown under the bus by Ozzie for not hitting Blalock, and gave up a run in the 9th inning in a game he should not have sniffed on a day the offense took a s***. Don't blame Tracey, don't take any of this s*** out on Tracey, take it out on Ozzie. Tracey didn't meander his way on to the field, randomly find the pitcher's mound, and just start pitching...someone brought him into a game he should not have pitched in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSHAWKS Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Sep 10, 2006 -> 08:37 PM) Not a ton. Good stuff, funny looking delivery...he can be effective. He'll never be a closer, but JFC, give the guy a chance. Let him throw in some situations where he'll be comfortable, instead of a high pressure situation where he is where one mistake kills him. My turn. What, in your opinion, has Sean Tracey done to deserve any of the amount of flack he receives? He's pitched like 4 innings, got ripped apart and thrown under the bus by Ozzie for not hitting Blalock, and gave up a run in the 9th inning in a game he should not have sniffed on a day the offense took a s***. Don't blame Tracey, don't take any of this s*** out on Tracey, take it out on Ozzie. Tracey didn't meander his way on to the field, randomly find the pitcher's mound, and just start pitching...someone brought him into a game he should not have pitched in. I haven't ripped Sean Tracey, he is what he is.....a mediocre minor league pitcher. However, if someone else wants to take the time to bash him, I certainly won't jump to his defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 QUOTE(MSHAWKS @ Sep 10, 2006 -> 08:39 PM) I haven't ripped Sean Tracey, he is what he is.....a mediocre minor league pitcher. However, if someone else wants to take the time to bash him, I certainly won't jump to his defense. I'm largely just sick of people on this board jumping to conclusions for every player the Sox put in there. Give the kid a chance. Don't frickin destroy him because of one game in September. Compare Juan Rincon and Sean Tracey. Better yet, compare Scot Shields and Sean Tracey. People here have been willing to give up like top quality, blue chip prospects for Scot Shields because he is so good. Shields 2000(AAA) - 5.41 ERA 1.47 WHIP 158 H 114 R 98 ER 16 HR 82 BB 156 K in 163 IP 2001(AAA) - 4.97 ERA 1.25 WHIP 141 H 84 R 76 ER 24 HR 31 BB 104 K in 137.2 IP Tracey 2005(AA) - 4.07 ERA 1.41 WHIP 154 H 80 R 74 ER 13 HR 76 BB 106 K in 163.2 2006(AAA) - 4.30 ERA 1.44 WHIP 111 H 67 R 62 ER 17 HR 76 BB 102 K in 129.2 IP ...just sayin' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSHAWKS Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Sep 10, 2006 -> 08:55 PM) I'm largely just sick of people on this board jumping to conclusions for every player the Sox put in there. Give the kid a chance. Don't frickin destroy him because of one game in September. I would say that the patience of Sox fans with young prospects is shorter when the team is in the middle of a pennant race. And rightfully so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 QUOTE(MSHAWKS @ Sep 10, 2006 -> 09:43 PM) I would say that the patience of Sox fans with young prospects is shorter when the team is in the middle of a pennant race. And rightfully so. And who is to blame for putting the prospects in the game? Sure as hell not them. Ozzie should know better. He apparently doesn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baines3 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Sean Tracey did seem to be any worse than the rest of our pitchers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 McCarthy is the golden boy. People are more apt to criticize Garland still than McCarthy. That amazes me but he has a free pass cause everybody says Oz misused him this year even though KW provided Oz with five starters whose name is not McCarthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 We love the guys who haven't had the chance to break our hearts. Once they are up and had a chance to play, they suck like every other mortal that has ever put on the uniform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Sep 10, 2006 -> 08:55 PM) I'm largely just sick of people on this board jumping to conclusions for every player the Sox put in there. Give the kid a chance. Don't frickin destroy him because of one game in September. Compare Juan Rincon and Sean Tracey. Better yet, compare Scot Shields and Sean Tracey. People here have been willing to give up like top quality, blue chip prospects for Scot Shields because he is so good. Shields 2000(AAA) - 5.41 ERA 1.47 WHIP 158 H 114 R 98 ER 16 HR 82 BB 156 K in 163 IP 2001(AAA) - 4.97 ERA 1.25 WHIP 141 H 84 R 76 ER 24 HR 31 BB 104 K in 137.2 IP Tracey 2005(AA) - 4.07 ERA 1.41 WHIP 154 H 80 R 74 ER 13 HR 76 BB 106 K in 163.2 2006(AAA) - 4.30 ERA 1.44 WHIP 111 H 67 R 62 ER 17 HR 76 BB 102 K in 129.2 IP ...just sayin' Just watching the guys you can see the difference. I mean, who taught Tracey those f-ed up mechanics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Sep 11, 2006 -> 11:35 AM) Just watching the guys you can see the difference. I mean, who taught Tracey those f-ed up mechanics? Who taught Ben Weber how to throw like a douchebag? Regardless of who, it worked for a period of time. It doesn't matter sometimes. I'm sure he'll be an effective reliever at some point in his career...I just don't think there's any chance it will be with the White Sox at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSHAWKS Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Sep 11, 2006 -> 01:06 PM) Who taught Ben Weber how to throw like a douchebag? Regardless of who, it worked for a period of time. It doesn't matter sometimes. I'm sure he'll be an effective reliever at some point in his career...I just don't think there's any chance it will be with the White Sox at this point. The question is with which team's Triple-A affiliate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 QUOTE(MSHAWKS @ Sep 11, 2006 -> 01:10 PM) The question is with which team's Triple-A affiliate? just wait...it'll be a couple years, so just wait Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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