Chisoxfn Posted November 15, 2002 Share Posted November 15, 2002 You all are right and I'm a big Rowand supporter, but if we could get a speedy say left handed hitter that would fit in the two hole that would be great. Of course Pierre is a righty and I'm not really sure whose out their and available that wouldn't cost much to acquire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbaho-WG Posted November 15, 2002 Share Posted November 15, 2002 Originally posted by hotsoxchick1can you deal rowand with his injury???? who would be willing to take that chance......where the hell is gord ash when you need him???? lol Rowand stil has value. I'm tending to think it would be a wise move to package Rowand and MJ to the A's for Terrance Long and Corey Lidle. Long is a more typical centerfielder although I don't know if he's much of an improvement over Rowand. I also thought of the Sox dealing Rowand do the Rockies for Juanne Pierre. The rockies have wanted Rowand for a while. I'd then try to move Liefer and MJ to the A's for Lidle(Liefer would be a great fit their) and then sign Hollandsworth to backup in center and left, and as an insurance in case Thomas goes. Another outfielder I like is Alex Ochoa, and if we lost Lee and needed another starter, I think Robert Fick is very solid(I don't know if he's a free agent. I know he was supposed to be, but he may of re-upped with Detroit near the end of the season) What the f*** are you smoking? Rowand and MJ for Lidle and Long? Um, look at Long's stats a year ago. Won't happen. Pierre for Rowand? Who's Colorado going to have lead off, Juan Uribe? Liefer MJ to the A's? We're dealing with Billy Beane here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 15, 2002 Share Posted November 15, 2002 Well I'm going off of Gammons rumors for the Lidle for Johnson stuff. I don't know why it would happen, but hey if the A's are that foolish then so be it. As far as Pierre, he's on the move to the Marlins except the deal is likely to be nixed and they aren't getting a leadoff hitter in return. I know the Rockies have given up on Pierre or they have someone else to play their because Uribe is who they want to leadoff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Showtime Posted November 16, 2002 Share Posted November 16, 2002 Originally posted by ChisoxfnWell I'm going off of Gammons rumors for the Lidle for Johnson stuff. I don't know why it would happen, but hey if the A's are that foolish then so be it. The rumor was Johnson and a center fielder. Once again, Beane has to cut payroll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 16, 2002 Share Posted November 16, 2002 Well, whose the centerfielder? Would you guys do Johnson and Rowand? Of course if they want a centerfielder that must mean Long is on the way out. I thought it was Johnson and a prospect. Of course we don't have any centerfield prospects, so who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Showtime Posted November 16, 2002 Share Posted November 16, 2002 Originally posted by ChisoxfnWell, whose the centerfielder? Would you guys do Johnson and Rowand? I thought it was Johnson and a prospect. Of course we don't have any centerfield prospects, so who knows. All Gammons said was a center fielder. Maybe that Reed guy we drafted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 16, 2002 Share Posted November 16, 2002 NO; Reed is awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbaho-WG Posted November 16, 2002 Share Posted November 16, 2002 Reed is probably two years away. But, everyone is forgetting about my boy Anthony Webster! Bling bling! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 16, 2002 Share Posted November 16, 2002 Yep, Webster and Reed are both their and if they both develop and keep growing they may end up pushing Maggs to DH. Of cousre this is a long ways off and you can't worry about this. Plus, odds are of Borchard, Webster and Reed one will fall on his face, but you never know. All I know is that all are real good all around players. Reed isn't a true power hitter, but he's still a player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted November 16, 2002 Share Posted November 16, 2002 I agree with chick. Why can't a true rumor be the firing of KW? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted November 16, 2002 Share Posted November 16, 2002 Originally posted by ChisoxfnOf cousre this is a long ways off and you can't worry about this. Plus, odds are of Borchard, Webster and Reed one will fall on his face, but you never know. Either that or the fact that one of them could be traded...or two of them. If we did a minor-league swap, I wouldn't mind it so much, as long as we got a good prospect in return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurcieOne Posted November 16, 2002 Author Share Posted November 16, 2002 We need major league talent! If the MLB was based on talent in the minors..... we'd be in the world series every year. Reed, Webster, Honel....... All expendable if we get The Colon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 16, 2002 Share Posted November 16, 2002 Honel is not expendable for Colon, mark my words on that. I'm not giving up Honel and someone like Rauch. I'd give up one or the other, mainly because we get a proven ace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurcieOne Posted November 16, 2002 Author Share Posted November 16, 2002 We all like Honel Jason....... But we have so many other top notch pitching prospects that he is expendable! I'd rather give up a guy like West/Wing/Stewart But aint gonna happen. The Colon...... Major League Ace Honel...... A-ball Ace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zach23 Posted November 16, 2002 Share Posted November 16, 2002 Here is a rumor that turned out to be true....... Kenny Williams is a stupid f***ing brainless piece of s*** that has a level of integrity as small as the shriveled prick that sits dormant in his s***-encrusted pants.:**** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurcieOne Posted November 16, 2002 Author Share Posted November 16, 2002 Kenny is a dumbass unless he gets Colon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted November 16, 2002 Share Posted November 16, 2002 Originally posted by zach23Here is a rumor that turned out to be true....... Kenny Williams is a stupid f***ing brainless piece of s*** that has a level of integrity as small as the shriveled prick that sits dormant in his s***-encrusted pants.:**** I second that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 18, 2002 Share Posted November 18, 2002 Detroit Tiger 28 year old lefty Mark Redman is on the trading block. Redman threw just over 200 innings last year and finished with a 4.29 era but had a terrible record. Redman does have a strong arm and seems to have good stamina. The Tigers are also looking to deal former closer Matt Anderson in a payroll dump. I would be very willing to take a look at Redman and Anderson would be a sweet pickup too, although I don't see that happening. Just tossing it out their as a solid pitcher that wouldn't cost much money and is available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurcieOne Posted November 18, 2002 Author Share Posted November 18, 2002 Originally posted by ChisoxfnDetroit Tiger 28 year old lefty Mark Redman is on the trading block. Redman threw just over 200 innings last year and finished with a 4.29 era but had a terrible record. Redman does have a strong arm and seems to have good stamina. The Tigers are also looking to deal former closer Matt Anderson in a payroll dump. I would be very willing to take a look at Redman and Anderson would be a sweet pickup too, although I don't see that happening. Just tossing it out their as a solid pitcher that wouldn't cost much money and is available. I love the idea........ but considering the tigers are in the division I think they are gonna ask for too much. anyone remember Crede for Weaver??? p.s isn't redman a Fa? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurcieOne Posted November 18, 2002 Author Share Posted November 18, 2002 Here's an Idea.......... Get Bartolo COLON!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 18, 2002 Share Posted November 18, 2002 From what I nkow Redman isn't a free agent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted November 18, 2002 Share Posted November 18, 2002 Originally posted by Murcielagop.s isn't redman a Fa? The Tigers have two free agents, Juan Acevedo and Matt Walbeck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxplosion Posted November 18, 2002 Share Posted November 18, 2002 I think we should aim at a young fa pitcher. Not Glavine or Maddux because by the time our core comes together they will be retiring so thats not a very good idea. I say we should sign Jeff D'Amico. The Mets are taking aim at Glavine so they will most likely not be too preoccupied with signing D'Amico. Last year, JD was 6-10 with a 4.94 ERA. Yes, these numbers dont look good but that probably means we could get him dirt cheap and Ive always liked D'Amico and when hes healthy he can be damn good. I say we sign him for like 2 years at 1.5 million each year. I say its worth the risk... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted November 19, 2002 Share Posted November 19, 2002 murc you can foreget colon.. kenny doesnt have his big brass ones on this winter..... you can count on a no name or nothing at all... ill be willing to bet on it........:**** kenny williams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted November 20, 2002 Share Posted November 20, 2002 i foreget which one of you all were the big brooks kieschnek backer here but, were you all aware he signed a deal with the brewers as a minor league free agent last week............just wanted to fyi ya ........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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