John Edwards - "Americans should 'sacrifice' SUVs for Env

[sox4lifeinPA]

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LAKE BUENA VISTA, Fla. — Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards told a labor group that he would ask Americans to make a big sacrifice: their sport utility vehicles.

 

"I think Americans are actually willing to sacrifice," Edwards said Tuesday during a forum held by the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers. "One of the things they should be asked to do is drive more fuel efficient vehicles."

 

 

 

I'm willing to sacrifice John Edwards for the environment while we're at it.

 

 

This guy just oozes slim.

 

 

 

[NorthSideSox72]

Slimeball though he is, I don't disagree with him here.

 

[kapkomet]

Let's just have the government control everything we do. You can have only 1 child per household. You cannot drive SUV's. You cannot make more then $100K per household, everything else gets redistributed. Let's get rid of profit motives and create a totally socialistic society. All cars must be brown. Your home must not exceed 1,500 square feet (since you only are allowed one child, this is plenty of room). You cannot express your opinions on baseball message boards.

 

Now, we have utopia!

[BigSqwert]

This guy just oozes slim.

Well he is thin.

[NorthSideSox72]

Let's just have the government control everything we do. You can have only 1 child per household. You cannot drive SUV's. You cannot make more then $100K per household, everything else gets redistributed. Let's get rid of profit motives and create a totally socialistic society. All cars must be brown. Your home must not exceed 1,500 square feet (since you only are allowed one child, this is plenty of room). You cannot express your opinions on baseball message boards.

 

Now, we have utopia!

OK so, I read the quote, and I agreed with it. However... I just now read the OTHER part, where he said he'd ask them to give up their SUV's. So let me rescind my earlier statement. I do NOT agree with that.

 

The quote that is in this thread, though, I am fine with.

 

[kapkomet]

OK so, I read the quote, and I agreed with it. However... I just now read the OTHER part, where he said he'd ask them to give up their SUV's. So let me rescind my earlier statement. I do NOT agree with that.

 

The quote that is in this thread, though, I am fine with.

For the most part, so am I... but if I choose to have a gas guzzler, I should have that choice.

[mr_genius]

Lol, John Edwards is such a dumbass. His "Carbon Footprint" is probably 50 times that of a normal American. I got an idea, John, how about you fix your own problems first, then tells how we should all be like you.

 

And please don't give me "He raises awareness" slop. Everyone is aware of global warming.

[BigSqwert]

Lol, John Edwards is such a dumbass.

 

I guess I don't understand why you would need to call him a dumbass.

 

And please don't give me "He raises awareness" slop.

 

So lets say, for instance, that Lawrence Taylor was quoted as saying "Hey kids, don't do drugs. They are bad for you." Would you tell children to ignore his message?

[kapkomet]

I guess I don't understand why you would need to call him a dumbass.So lets say, for instance, that Lawrence Taylor was quoted as saying "Hey kids, don't do drugs. They are bad for you." Would you tell children to ignore his message?

Because he is. Not necessarily for this, but he is anyway.

[Texsox]

Lol, John Edwards is such a dumbass. His "Carbon Footprint" is probably 50 times that of a normal American. I got an idea, John, how about you fix your own problems first, then tells how we should all be like you.

 

And please don't give me "He raises awareness" slop. Everyone is aware of global warming.

 

I don't think it is fair to compare him to a "normal" American. Compare him to other Senators, CEOs, peers in his group.

[BigSqwert]

What does this even mean? What personal problems does he need to fix?

 

I got an idea, John, how about you fix your own problems first, then tells how we should all be like you.

 

[mr_genius]

So lets say, for instance, that Lawrence Taylor was quoted as saying "Hey kids, don't do drugs. They are bad for you." Would you tell children to ignore his message?

 

 

If Lawrence Taylor was running for president and his main platfrom was "don't do drugs" and while he was giving a speech he kept snorting line of coke, then he would be exactly like John Edwards preaching about pollution.

[Texsox]

What does this even mean? What personal problems does he need to fix?

 

He needs to adopt an Amish lifestyle and use zero energy . . .

[mr_genius]

What does this even mean? What personal problems does he need to fix?

 

Obviously, his massive carbon output and the amount of pollution is lifestyle creates. Seriously, if that confused you, I probably will stop replying to your posts.

[BigSqwert]

Obviously, his massive carbon output and the amount of pollution is lifestyle creates. Seriously, if that confused you, I probably will stop replying to your posts.

Lifestyle? I was not aware that on weekends he collects old tires and throws then into his backyard where he has an eternally burning tire fire.

Edited August 29, 2007 by BigSqwert

[mr_genius]

He needs to adopt an Amish lifestyle and use zero energy . . .

 

He's not even close to average American or average Senator on the amount of pollution he creates. So, going to zero energy would be amazing. Honestly, how about just live a lifestyle that is as destructive to the enviroment as the average American, John? That would be a big enough improvement. BTW, he's not even a Senator any more, just a rich douche bag creating tons of pollution and then preaching about how everyone should drive their family around in a Yugo.

[mr_genius]

Lifestyle? I was not aware that on weekends he collects old tires and throws then into his backyard where he has an eternally burning tire fire.

 

 

My bad. Tire fires are the only source of pollution.

 

You sir, are a god among men.

Edited August 29, 2007 by mr_genius

[mr_genius]

I don't think it is fair to compare him to a "normal" American. Compare him to other Senators, CEOs, peers in his group.

 

 

But all those people are evil earth destroyers, Texsox. John Edwards, the enviromental crusader, should certainly hold himself to higher standards.

[BigSqwert]

just a rich douche bag creating tons of pollution

What exactly is he doing that is above and beyond what another politician might be doing?

 

And why does this have to be a partisan issue? If Rudy or Mitt had the same message I would be just as happy to hear it. I know for a fact that every candidate running for President has a larger carbon footprint than I do. That doesn't mean that I don't want them to speak out for the environment.

[EvilMonkey]

I guess I don't understand why you would need to call him a dumbass.

So lets say, for instance, that A congressman was quoted as saying "Hey kids, don't be gay. It's bad for you." Would you tell children to ignore his message?

It seems that the above staement, with a few word changes, got alot of ridicule coming from a certain congressman.

[mr_genius]

What exactly is he doing that is above and beyond what another politician might be doing?

 

And why does this have to be a partisan issue? If Rudy or Mitt had the same message I would be just as happy to hear it. I know for a fact that every candidate running for President has a larger carbon footprint than I do. That doesn't mean that I don't want them to speak out for the environment.

 

If he really believes that there will be a global disaster because of global warming, but still creates a huge amount of carbon, he truly is an an asshole. Not the kind of person I want to be president. He is part of the problem, not the solution. It is very easy to point the finger at everyone else and decide that you have earned to right to be a major polluter. Basically, this is the attitude that most people have. It's everyone elses fault and they are not going to change any aspect of their life.

[BigSqwert]

If he really believes that there will be a global disaster because of global warming, but still creates a huge amount of carbon, he truly is an an asshole. Not the kind of person I want to be president. He is part of the problem, not the solution. It is very easy to point the finger at everyone else and decide that you have earned to right to be a major polluter. Basically, this is the attitude that most people have. It's everyone elses fault and they are not going to change any aspect of their life.

So apparently the next environmental bill that comes up for vote in the House or Senate should be first addressed like this:

 

"Unless you're only means of transportation is a solar powered go-cart you cannot vote on this bill."

 

I mean seriously, based on your logic no politician can ever vote for any environmental legislation or speak about the environment because they all drive cars and SUVs and have homes that use electricity.

[EvilMonkey]

Go back and look at the old Soxtalk posts about his mansion. he clearcuts acres! And has a house that dwarfs almost anything within 5 states, and has the nuts to tell Joe Sixpack that he shouldn't drive his SUV.

[EvilMonkey]

I mean seriously, based on your logic no politician can ever vote for any environmental legislation or speak about the environment because they all drive cars and SUVs and have homes that use electricity.

Sounds kinda like the same logic Dems use in talking about the war. Oh, you didn't go to Vietnam? You can't have an opinion on the war then, you are a chickenhawk. If Edwards wants to be credible on the environment, stop using up more resources than the whole town combined. Fly commercial. Don't take a limo everywhere. Maybe a smaller house, or one more environmentally friendly?(NOT saying he should live in a shack, but his house is HUGE! Maybe he is compensating for something? Hmmm.) For gods sakes, how many rooms does he need? He can only store so much hair gel beore it starts to go bad. And you don't want to see bad hair gel.

Edited August 29, 2007 by Alpha Dog

[BigSqwert]

Go back and look at the old Soxtalk posts about his mansion. he clearcuts acres! And has a house that dwarfs almost anything within 5 states, and has the nuts to tell Joe Sixpack that he shouldn't drive his SUV.

If a politician where to ever enact legislation that helped the environment somehow (i.e., outlaw SUVs or something to that affect) then wouldn't that law apply to everyone, including all the politicians? I guess I'm struggling to see your point of view. Sure he will have a much larger carbon footprint than me, but so will most politicians regardless of party.