Illinois deserves whatever governor they get.

 

I don't really agree. Most people south of I-80 don't like the liberal policies that have ruined the state. But they're stuck at the mercy of the people of Chicago, a large percentage of whom are dependent on the government and liberal politicians. They're so brain washed they've RE-elected criminals.

He's offering to reverse Quinn's income tax hikes. That'll play nicely with most voters.

 

It still saddens me that rich guy = horrible person in this country. Or more accurately, rich guy who is a Republican. Quinn isn't nearly as rich but he's still rich, as are most politicians these days.

 

Blame the media? Personally, if Rauner just brings the state from laughing stock to respectable, that's all any voter could ask for. I have zero faith in Quinn. He was the Lt. Gov for a criminal although you could say that about a lot of Lt. Govs of Illinois past.

 

I'm not sure how much money the income tax hike reversal would save the average Illinois citizen but I can't imagine it being "WOW" worthy.

 

I'm still not understanding Rauner's plan to fix Illinois sans shock and awe tactics. I think him being a business guy should be interesting but you can't run a state goverment like you run a business.

Edited October 14, 201411 yr by pettie4sox

Blame the media? Personally, if Rauner just brings the state from laughing stock to respectable, that's all any voter could ask for. I have zero faith in Quinn. He was the Lt. Gov for a criminal although you could say that about a lot of Lt. Govs of Illinois past.

 

I'm not sure how much money the income tax hike reversal would save the average Illinois citizen but I can't imagine it being "WOW" worthy.

 

I'm still not understanding Rauner's plan to fix Illinois sans shock and awe tactics. I think him being a business guy should be interesting but you can't run a state goverment like you run a business.

There are many areas that absolutely can be ran like a business. Like budgeting. There isn't a department in this state that couldn't actually CUT 5%. And I mean use less money, not only increase by 5% instead of 10%. The problem is when the politicized managers of the various departments are told to do this, they try to make the cuts as painful as possible, so that people will whine about it, instead of eliminating the second cousin that sits in the corner office playing Candy Crush all day, or maybe having a few contract go to the lowest bidder instead of the most connected one.

 

Personally, I don't care if they LOWER my taxes, just stop raising them. I pay enough.

I can dig that.

Get rid of that stupid f***ing flat tax. I now live in Ohio, which has some similarities to Illinois in the strong blue metros/strong red rural areas and traditionally competitive governor races. We at least have a progressive income tax scheme. How does a state that has recently been blue at every level still have a regressive tax structure?

IIRC taxes at state and local levels are regressive in most of the country.

IIRC taxes at state and local levels are regressive in most of the country.

 

They often are. I just expect better from a state which is led by supposed liberals. For all the moaning and groaning about Democratic control in IL, we hardly have the legislative output of a Dem state

They often are. I just expect better from a state which is led by supposed liberals. For all the moaning and groaning about Democratic control in IL, we hardly have the legislative output of a Dem state

 

It looks like exactly what I envision.

Rauner did a lot better in the second debate. Quinn just his usual lousy self.

http://eagnews.org/chicagoland-voting-mach...dem-opponent-2/

 

 

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/10/il...ng-booth-video/

 

 

 

shhhhhh....

 

Did early voting start yet for 2016 elections?

Oh, so all of a sudden you guys care about problems with voting machines. Right.

Here's another, courtesy of the scumbags that are the Democratic Party of Wisconsin. It is truly pathetic the extent these tools will go to, to try maintain or retake power.

 

http://watchdog.org/177646/election-polls-marguerite-ingold/

 

 

Hope Karma reignes down on your ass.

Oh, so all of a sudden you guys care about problems with voting machines. Right.

 

No I understand that the Dems are scumbag assholes who steal elections and have been for sixty years. Totally ok to tell someone to vote Democratic. Can't say anything ....may be a racist....shhhhh

 

She is probably getting a paid day off work to break the law...maybe even a raise....

 

 

Voter fraud does not exist....voter fraud does not exist.....voter fraud does not exist....voter fraud does not exist...

No I understand that the Dems are scumbag assholes who steal elections and have been for sixty years. Totally ok to tell someone to vote Democratic. Can't say anything ....may be a racist....shhhhh

 

She is probably getting a paid day off work to break the law...maybe even a raise....

 

 

Voter fraud does not exist....voter fraud does not exist.....voter fraud does not exist....voter fraud does not exist...

And none of those issues would have been solved or impacted by an ID check.

No I understand that the Dems are scumbag assholes who steal elections and have been for sixty years. Totally ok to tell someone to vote Democratic. Can't say anything ....may be a racist....shhhhh

 

She is probably getting a paid day off work to break the law...maybe even a raise....

 

 

Voter fraud does not exist....voter fraud does not exist.....voter fraud does not exist....voter fraud does not exist...

lol

And none of those issues would have been solved or impacted by an ID check.

This one would have.

http://www.arizonadailyindependent.com/201...caught-on-tape/

And none of those issues would have been solved or impacted by an ID check.

 

 

I never mentioned an ID check. you guys are so sensitive about voter fraud, you reflexively admonish id checks. I referenced a clear illegal electioneering violation in front of a supposed constitutional scholar. That's all.

Electioneering laws have nothing to do with the constitution but keep on raging.

 

edit: and linking to the dumbest man on the internet, Jim Hoft

Edited October 22, 201411 yr by StrangeSox

This one would have.

http://www.arizonadailyindependent.com/201...caught-on-tape/

Really? I'm pretty sure it wouldn't have. If this is a guy sneaking in extra "filled out ballots" (this place is still using paper?) then it's not going to change whether or not he has an ID.

No I understand that the Dems are scumbag assholes who steal elections and have been for sixty years. Totally ok to tell someone to vote Democratic. Can't say anything ....may be a racist....shhhhh

 

She is probably getting a paid day off work to break the law...maybe even a raise....

 

 

Voter fraud does not exist....voter fraud does not exist.....voter fraud does not exist....voter fraud does not exist...

 

It happens for both sides. No reason to be partisan about it.

It happens for both sides. No reason to be partisan about it.

One of our sides was begging for money and rules to fix voting machine issues in 2002-2003 and we wound up with more expensive crappy voting machines that didn't generate paper trails in districts that could afford them and no real improvement in districts that had a small tax base.

It happens for both sides. No reason to be partisan about it.

 

Right. I the last election stolen in Chicago right here on the tip of my tongue.........ummmmm.ahhhhhhh.....hmmmmmmmm.....let me see......just a minute........oh yeah what's his name.......Daley..noooooo..........JFK.........noooooo. GMAFB..... How about Crook County?

And none of those issues would have been solved or impacted by an ID check.

 

 

:lolhitting You win..

Right. I the last election stolen in Chicago right here on the tip of my tongue.........ummmmm.ahhhhhhh.....hmmmmmmmm.....let me see......just a minute........oh yeah what's his name.......Daley..noooooo..........JFK.........noooooo. GMAFB..... How about Crook County?

 

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R's steal elections all th etime in Chicago and Crook County