July 22, 200322 yr I think Kenny expressed my feelings best. "We didnt get Billy Koch we could have a curveball coming out of the bullpen...you expect him to come in and throw 96" or something along those lines. expecting him to throw 96 and him doing it have been two different things though......... real vague comment. uh
July 22, 200322 yr I think Kenny expressed my feelings best. "We didnt get Billy Koch we could have a curveball coming out of the bullpen...you expect him to come in and throw 96" or something along those lines. expecting him to throw 96 and him doing it have been two different things though......... real vague comment. uh whats so vauge about it????? he doesnt do what he is said to do... nothing vauge there........
July 22, 200322 yr I think Kenny expressed my feelings best. "We didnt get Billy Koch we could have a curveball coming out of the bullpen...you expect him to come in and throw 96" or something along those lines. expecting him to throw 96 and him doing it have been two different things though......... real vague comment. uh whats so vauge about it????? he doesnt do what he is said to do... nothing vauge there........ yeah, but my next question would've been "but he hasn't trhown that speed as of late, why? are you disappointed in his performance? do you feel as you were outsmarted again by billy beene?"
July 22, 200322 yr I think Kenny expressed my feelings best. "We didnt get Billy Koch we could have a curveball coming out of the bullpen...you expect him to come in and throw 96" or something along those lines. expecting him to throw 96 and him doing it have been two different things though......... real vague comment. uh whats so vauge about it????? he doesnt do what he is said to do... nothing vauge there........ yeah, but my next question would've been "but he hasn't trhown that speed as of late, why? are you disappointed in his performance? do you feel as you were outsmarted again by billy beene?" hey i didnt get taken by billy beane...lol ........nor would i have been.. i wouldnt have made the trade in the first place............. but i now see where your coming from...lol..i took the statement a different way .......i thought that murc was making the comment that it was one of his favorite line of kw's.....my bad.......
July 22, 200322 yr that guy from oakland seems to have gotten the better of the trade right now..... i dont think it is because he is the genius he wants everyone to think he is.... that is the nature of trades.... sometimes they work out ok, sometimes not... billy koch is not out to pasture yet.... and anything can happen to foulke( i hope not) i think if koch cant get his velocity, he could learn another pitch and become a dominant closer again. there are a ton of stories about pitchers given up for dead who have come back and been successful (gagne, jose lima, even kerry wood) not time to panic yet
July 22, 200322 yr indy i dont share your same thoughts there.. botch is out to pasture and ready for the shot........put him out of our misery now.....please.........
July 22, 200322 yr indy i dont share your same thoughts there.. botch is out to pasture and ready for the shot........put him out of our misery now.....please......... I loved watching Foulke shove it right back down the throats of JR and KW by saving the AllStar Game for the American League in the ballpark he used to call home. f*** Botch. He's done..... unless he can get his finesse stuff working..... preferably not down the middle of home plate and belt-high either
July 22, 200322 yr I think Kenny expressed my feelings best. "We didnt get Billy Koch we could have a curveball coming out of the bullpen...you expect him to come in and throw 96" or something along those lines. expecting him to throw 96 and him doing it have been two different things though......... real vague comment. uh whats so vauge about it????? he doesnt do what he is said to do... nothing vauge there........ yeah, but my next question would've been "but he hasn't trhown that speed as of late, why? are you disappointed in his performance? do you feel as you were outsmarted again by billy beene?" hey i didnt get taken by billy beane...lol ........nor would i have been.. i wouldnt have made the trade in the first place............. but i now see where your coming from...lol..i took the statement a different way .......i thought that murc was making the comment that it was one of his favorite line of kw's.....my bad....... lol, oh that is funny.
July 22, 200322 yr indy i dont share your same thoughts there.. botch is out to pasture and ready for the shot........put him out of our misery now.....please......... BULLs***....the man has been completely OVERWORKED in the past by Oakland and Toronto, then KW goes and gets him without thinking of the consequences. Koch will be fine, I'm glad I have at least ONE supporter (thanks Indy). Foulke wouldnt have been here next year, hated our management, how many times has it been said. Foulke was screwed 6 ways to Sunday by this organization, and he woulda wanted NO part in being here any longer than he had to. All these people crowing about how good Cotts is, well...you cant have him AND Foulke.
July 22, 200322 yr that guy from oakland seems to have gotten the better of the trade right now..... i dont think it is because he is the genius he wants everyone to think he is.... that is the nature of trades.... sometimes they work out ok, sometimes not... billy koch is not out to pasture yet.... and anything can happen to foulke( i hope not) i think if koch cant get his velocity, he could learn another pitch and become a dominant closer again. there are a ton of stories about pitchers given up for dead who have come back and been successful (gagne, jose lima, even kerry wood) not time to panic yet you miss the point of the trade, it was to improve the team this yr, to solidify the pen where no one has to question who is going to be our closer. all of which was not accomplished. kw has been taken on most of his trade and that has been a fact.
July 22, 200322 yr All these people crowing about how good Cotts is, well...you cant have him AND Foulke. I don't want Cotts and his 87 MPH blazer either
July 22, 200322 yr indy i dont share your same thoughts there.. botch is out to pasture and ready for the shot........put him out of our misery now.....please......... come on now... i expect negative posts when we lose... but hey, we won tonight...cant we dream a little.... just for one day and dont pick on me... sometimes i get a childlike optimism when it comes to my favorite teams... it keeps me young at heart
July 22, 200322 yr BULLs***....the man has been completely OVERWORKED in the past by Oakland and Toronto, then KW goes and gets him without thinking of the consequences. Koch will be fine, I'm glad I have at least ONE supporter (thanks Indy). Foulke wouldnt have been here next year, hated our management, how many times has it been said. Foulke was screwed 6 ways to Sunday by this organization, and he woulda wanted NO part in being here any longer than he had to. All these people crowing about how good Cotts is, well...you cant have him AND Foulke. cotts is good but we are hoping that he would help redeem the trade, we were taken. why was the trade made i the first place, do you remember what kw said on why the trade was done.
July 22, 200322 yr I don't want Cotts and his 87 MPH blazer either yep on that bandwagon with ya there too killa..........mark my words guys.. botch will only go down from here... not like its that far a trip but down still the same........
July 22, 200322 yr come on now... i expect negative posts when we lose... but hey, we won tonight...cant we dream a little.... just for one day and dont pick on me... sometimes i get a childlike optimism when it comes to my favorite teams... it keeps me young at heart we are imho are great sox fan supporters, but that doesn't make up blind to what is really happening.
July 22, 200322 yr come on now... i expect negative posts when we lose... but hey, we won tonight...cant we dream a little.... just for one day and dont pick on me... sometimes i get a childlike optimism when it comes to my favorite teams... it keeps me young at heart im not pickin on ya indy... just pointing out that botches supposed killer 100mhp ball hasnt hit that since he got here.. hell hes lucky to hit 95........
July 22, 200322 yr that guy from oakland seems to have gotten the better of the trade right now..... i dont think it is because he is the genius he wants everyone to think he is.... that is the nature of trades.... sometimes they work out ok, sometimes not... billy koch is not out to pasture yet.... and anything can happen to foulke( i hope not) i think if koch cant get his velocity, he could learn another pitch and become a dominant closer again. there are a ton of stories about pitchers given up for dead who have come back and been successful (gagne, jose lima, even kerry wood) not time to panic yet you miss the point of the trade, it was to improve the team this yr, to solidify the pen where no one has to question who is going to be our closer. all of which was not accomplished. kw has been taken on most of his trade and that has been a fact. ok...maybe i did not get my thought across clearly.... i know what the point of the trade was and i know it has not worked ut in our favor.... yet.... i think we got to try to make the best of the situation.. i am not ready to give up on koch yet
July 22, 200322 yr come on now... i expect negative posts when we lose... but hey, we won tonight...cant we dream a little.... just for one day and dont pick on me... sometimes i get a childlike optimism when it comes to my favorite teams... it keeps me young at heart im not pickin on ya indy... just pointing out that botches supposed killer 100mhp ball hasnt hit that since he got here.. hell hes lucky to hit 95........ yes he is not as good as advertised....it was probably a dumb trade in hindsight...just keep a little faith... and if it does not work out .... f*** him
July 22, 200322 yr that guy from oakland seems to have gotten the better of the trade right now..... i dont think it is because he is the genius he wants everyone to think he is.... that is the nature of trades.... sometimes they work out ok, sometimes not... billy koch is not out to pasture yet.... and anything can happen to foulke( i hope not) i think if koch cant get his velocity, he could learn another pitch and become a dominant closer again. there are a ton of stories about pitchers given up for dead who have come back and been successful (gagne, jose lima, even kerry wood) not time to panic yet you miss the point of the trade, it was to improve the team this yr, to solidify the pen where no one has to question who is going to be our closer. all of which was not accomplished. kw has been taken on most of his trade and that has been a fact. ok...maybe i did not get my thought across clearly.... i know what the point of the trade was and i know it has not worked ut in our favor.... yet.... i think we got to try to make the best of the situation.. i am not ready to give up on koch yet yet???????????? and again what was the reason for the trade? if that goal wasn't accomplish then what do you call that? make the best, we wanted someone to get us to the playoff, someone you can count on to close the team and most importantly what has foulke done compared to botch?
July 22, 200322 yr come on now... i expect negative posts when we lose... but hey, we won tonight...cant we dream a little.... just for one day and dont pick on me... sometimes i get a childlike optimism when it comes to my favorite teams... it keeps me young at heart im not pickin on ya indy... just pointing out that botches supposed killer 100mhp ball hasnt hit that since he got here.. hell hes lucky to hit 95........ yes he is not as good as advertised....it was probably a dumb trade in hindsight...just keep a little faith... and if it does not work out .... f*** him i just cant keep a candle burning for something not worth the flame.....and botch is not worthy..............not now, not ever........or at least as long as hes here...........
July 22, 200322 yr come on now... i expect negative posts when we lose... but hey, we won tonight...cant we dream a little.... just for one day and dont pick on me... sometimes i get a childlike optimism when it comes to my favorite teams... it keeps me young at heart im not pickin on ya indy... just pointing out that botches supposed killer 100mhp ball hasnt hit that since he got here.. hell hes lucky to hit 95........ yes he is not as good as advertised....it was probably a dumb trade in hindsight...just keep a little faith... and if it does not work out .... f*** him and has he panned out? you got to come to terms to this trade. we lost and he has screw up more than he has helped.
July 22, 200322 yr alright then... i guess i am the village idiot tonight... so then forget the baby... just throw out that bathwater
July 22, 200322 yr Because our other options stats areso much better Koch has blown the same amount of saves that Gordon has, in 6 less tries, without his out pitch. When Gordon starts to struggle, and he will, is everyone on here gonna be pissing and moaning about KW signing him as a FA? The scouting shoulda been dome on Kochs arm, it obviously wasnt, and yet its all Kochs fault that he has pitched a TON in the past.
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