chisoxfan09 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 (edited) OK, I know there are multiple threads already in some fashion but this might start the do all be all Doc Halladay discussion. JP Riciarddi now in an interview quotes that he will listen to offers for Doc but must be blown away to deal him. Link at bottom of quote. OK let's roll with the comments and try and get Doc!! And while that doesn't mean Ricciardi is ready to sell Halladay off to the highest bidder, it sure does sound like he's willing to listen. "We have to see what makes us better," he said. "Obviously, if people have interest in Roy Halladay, they'd better realize there's a steep price that's going to come with it." http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/story/11925937/rss Edited July 6, 2009 by chisoxfan09 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenksycat Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Wrong side of 30 + huge IP every year. I wouldn't be comfortable selling the farm for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFanForever Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Realistically, how many good years does Roy have left? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 QUOTE (SoxFanForever @ Jul 6, 2009 -> 01:23 PM) Realistically, how many good years does Roy have left? I'd say 2-3 real good years, and 2-3 solid years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 H-A-L-L-A-D-A-Y (just sayin...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsgoarow Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Id give my left nut for him.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxbrian Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 If we don't want to give up Hudson, Beckham, Flowers, Danks, or Viciedo, we have no chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenksycat Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Jul 6, 2009 -> 01:47 PM) If we don't want to give up Hudson, Beckham, Flowers, Danks, or Viciedo, we have no chance. I hope you don't mean all together, that would be the dumbest trade in the history of sports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxbrian Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Jul 6, 2009 -> 12:55 PM) I hope you don't mean all together, that would be the dumbest trade in the history of sports. I didn't mean that. In the "who is KW trying to shake loose" thread, everyone is saying that they wouldn't give up either of those guys. Then how the hell do we get him? We don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan09 Posted July 6, 2009 Author Share Posted July 6, 2009 If we don't want to give up Hudson, Beckham, Flowers, Danks, or Viciedo, we have no chance. I tend to agree but as noted before he is turning 33 next year. But I am also optimistic that at least KW will pick up the phone and start a dialogue maybe centered on Poreda/Richard. That is a starting point. A lot going against Toronto (Yearly 4th place finish forecast for at least another 3-4 years minimum, Halladay getting older and wanting to be on a winner, they are losing money, etc). Just possibly the right ingrediants that may make Ricciardi ponder it enough. Plus Chicago s pretty close flight time to Toronto which is Roy's permenant home. I know I mis-spelled the last name before, sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 QUOTE (chisoxfan09 @ Jul 6, 2009 -> 12:01 PM) I tend to agree but as noted before he is turning 33 next year. But I am also optimistic that at least KW will pick up the phone and start a dialogue maybe centered on Poreda/Richard. That is a starting point. A lot going against Toronto (Yearly 4th place finish forecast for at least another 3-4 years minimum, Halladay getting older and wanting to be on a winner, they are losing money, etc). Just possibly the right ingrediants that may make Ricciardi ponder it enough. Plus Chicago s pretty close flight time to Toronto which is Roy's permenant home. I know I mis-spelled the last name before, sorry. I wouldn't give up any of Viciedo, D2, Allen, Hudson, Beckham, or Flowers for him. If we could do a deal centered around Richard and/or Poreda that's fair. But it's those 2 PTBNL's in the Peavy trade that worry me; if the list of PTBNL's included anyone like Hudson or Allen, then we can't offer that package. I'm not sure how they feel about Richard and Poreda, but I'd probably part with both of those lefties straight up for him. I wouldn't go much beyond that though, not at his age and with only 1.5 on the contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Philips Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 To get Halladay it will take something special. Players salary is a great concern for the Blue Jays. I would say maybe Brandon Allen, and Poreda. just a guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxbrian Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 QUOTE (forrestg @ Jul 6, 2009 -> 02:09 PM) To get Halladay it will take something special. Players salary is a great concern for the Blue Jays. I would say maybe Brandon Allen, and Poreda. just a guess. Allen, Poreda, and Richard? Done. They can have Link, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan09 Posted July 6, 2009 Author Share Posted July 6, 2009 I wouldn't give up any of Viciedo, D2, Allen, Hudson, Beckham, or Flowers for him. If we could do a deal centered around Richard and/or Poreda that's fair. But it's those 2 PTBNL's in the Peavy trade that worry me; if the list of PTBNL's included anyone like Hudson or Allen, then we can't offer that package. I'm not sure how they feel about Richard and Poreda, but I'd probably part with both of those lefties straight up for him. I wouldn't go much beyond that though, not at his age and with only 1.5 on the contract. Balta, didn't mention that if KW were to look at him then an extension would have to be discussed to make it worth it. Maybe to more years until the end of 2012. Just sayin cuz I think he is gonna rock until he is at least 36/37. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Beckham would be the only untouchable in my book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Philips Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jul 6, 2009 -> 02:14 PM) Beckham would be the only untouchable in my book.Ok, Allen, Poreda, Richards and Fields. We in return get Halladay and Scott Rolen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan09 Posted July 6, 2009 Author Share Posted July 6, 2009 Ok, Allen, Poreda, Richards and Fields. We in return get Halladay and Scott Rolen. But Halladay has to agree to an extension. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 QUOTE (chisoxfan09 @ Jul 6, 2009 -> 12:28 PM) But Halladay has to agree to an extension. :-) Do we really want to extend a guy who'll be 33 years old at the time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan09 Posted July 6, 2009 Author Share Posted July 6, 2009 Do we really want to extend a guy who'll be 33 years old at the time? Balta, I share everyone's concerns that he may be an over worked horse but you gotta get return on your investment. Just thinkin 2 more years to keep this core together until the end of 2012. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 QUOTE (chisoxfan09 @ Jul 6, 2009 -> 12:35 PM) Balta, I share everyone's concerns that he may be an over worked horse but you gotta get return on your investment. Just thinkin 2 more years to keep this core together until the end of 2012. By Core, what exactly do you mean? Because if we make an offer to blow away the Jays, we may not have much of a core other than the old guys that people are trying to move on from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan09 Posted July 6, 2009 Author Share Posted July 6, 2009 By Core, what exactly do you mean? Because if we make an offer to blow away the Jays, we may not have much of a core other than the old guys that people are trying to move on from. Sorry, the pitching core we have at present excluding trade candidates (Buerhle, Danks, Floyd). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Jul 6, 2009 -> 03:10 PM) Allen, Poreda, and Richard? Done. They can have Link, too. And I'll pickup peanut shells in their stadium. That's a steal (and I do like all 3 of those players we'd be sending). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 6, 2009 -> 03:33 PM) Do we really want to extend a guy who'll be 33 years old at the time? A LOT of pitchers pitch well into their late 30s and Roy seems to be a guy who has an arm made of rubber. A rotation of Halladay, Buehrle, Danks, Count and Floyd has World Title written all over it. Edited July 6, 2009 by kwolf68 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longshot7 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 he's the best pitcher in baseball - wouldn't they want one of our STARTERS that isnt Richard, ie Danks or Floyd? Allen and Danks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenksycat Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 QUOTE (longshot7 @ Jul 6, 2009 -> 02:53 PM) he's the best pitcher in baseball - wouldn't they want one of our STARTERS that isnt Richard, ie Danks or Floyd? Allen and Danks? not a chance in hell you trade a 23 yo Danks for a 33 yo Halladay. I wouldn't even do that straight up, let alone with Allen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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