Cerbaho-WG Posted July 30, 2003 Share Posted July 30, 2003 White Sox-Angels Sox receive: Scott Schoenweis, Doug Nickle Angels receive: Gary Glover, Tim Bittner, Scott Dunn -- Mariners-Mets Mariners receive: Rey Sanchez Mets receive: Kenny Kelly -- Yankees-D'backs D'Backs receive: Raul Mondesi Yankees receive: David Delucci, Bret Prinz, Jon Mark Sprowl -- Red Sox-Reds Red Sox receive: Scott Williamson Reds receive: Phillip Dumatrait, PTBNL, cash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2003 Posted July 30, 2003 Share Posted July 30, 2003 That's a very nice move by the Red Sox... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted July 30, 2003 Share Posted July 30, 2003 Scott Dunn..... we barely knew ye! Moving Jimenez to acquire Dunn to later use him in the trade that would bring us Schoenweis was probably in KW's grand scheme anyways Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxplosion Posted July 30, 2003 Share Posted July 30, 2003 Not often you see the Yanks getting the smalltimers/prospects... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 30, 2003 Share Posted July 30, 2003 Is this a good trade for us or did KW blunder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted July 30, 2003 Share Posted July 30, 2003 Is this a good trade for us or did KW blunder? When dealing with KW trades, err to the side of blunder until proven otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2003 Posted July 30, 2003 Share Posted July 30, 2003 When dealing with KW trades, err to the side of blunder until proven otherwise. I think this is a good one...We've got a guy that can pitch the 6th and 7th to get us to r great 1-2 combo in Marte and Gordon... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted July 30, 2003 Share Posted July 30, 2003 That's a very nice move by the Red Sox... Indeed. Good Move. I would love for the Red SOx to over take the Spankees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Fainter Posted July 30, 2003 Share Posted July 30, 2003 I think I heard that the Cards got Suppan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAfan Posted July 30, 2003 Share Posted July 30, 2003 That's a very nice move by the Red Sox... Indeed. Good Move. I would love for the Red SOx to over take the Spankees But we may have to beat the BoSox down the line. Until now, their most glaring weakness was their pen, secondarily their rotation. This move helps them in both spots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesox247 Posted July 30, 2003 Share Posted July 30, 2003 I just heard some interesting stuff about the Mondesi trade. Cashman said that Mondesi left the Sunday Yanks-BoSox game in about the 6th inning after he was pinch-hit for. He just decided to pack up and go home all by himself and flew to Anaheim alone. Cashman said Mondesi has had alot of incidents like this and this was the lone reason that he got rid of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted July 30, 2003 Share Posted July 30, 2003 If you stop and think about it .... Glover and Jiminez for Schoenwicjkhjkkj .... not too shabby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted July 30, 2003 Share Posted July 30, 2003 If you stop and think about it .... Glover and Jiminez for Schoenwicjkhjkkj .... not too shabby. if you look at it that way, we got remmed. the glover for scott is a wash. the trade was made just for the sake of the trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted July 30, 2003 Share Posted July 30, 2003 Oh hell ... Jiminez was a moron that we were going to release, basically. He totally sucked. In fact, by the time he was gone, I considered him a liabilty rather than an asset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 30, 2003 Share Posted July 30, 2003 I still think I was about the only person who supported Jimenez. Then again thats kind of how I am...afterall I have supported KW as well as Royce the Choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted July 30, 2003 Share Posted July 30, 2003 I still think I was about the only person who supported Jimenez. Then again thats kind of how I am...afterall I have supported KW as well as Royce the Choice. now i am going to question your post in ref to your sanity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted July 30, 2003 Share Posted July 30, 2003 i don't know, i just looked up that guy that the red sox gave up to get williamson. i am not impressed. maybe i am too much of a homer on this, but i would consider several of our 2 tier pitchers as being better. jas rex hsc or anyone else, what are your thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 30, 2003 Share Posted July 30, 2003 i don't know, i just looked up that guy that the red sox gave up to get williamson. i am not impressed. maybe i am too much of a homer on this, but i would consider several of our 2 tier pitchers as being better. jas rex hsc or anyone else, what are your thoughts. Don't know anything about the Boston guy other then he was a first round pick and has put up solid numbers thus far. I'm assuming he has a high upside but I didnt' really look into the deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted July 30, 2003 Share Posted July 30, 2003 i don't know, i just looked up that guy that the red sox gave up to get williamson. i am not impressed. maybe i am too much of a homer on this, but i would consider several of our 2 tier pitchers as being better. jas rex hsc or anyone else, what are your thoughts. Don't know anything about the Boston guy other then he was a first round pick and has put up solid numbers thus far. I'm assuming he has a high upside but I didnt' really look into the deal. you have to realize something, bos farm system is a little better than stl and balt and la. so they do not have too much. here is from ba his stats. 5. Phil Dumatrait, lhp Age: 22. B-T: R-L. Ht.: 6-2. Wt.: 170. Drafted: Bakersfield (Calif.) JC, 2000 (1st round). Signed by: Ed Roebuck. Background: With the 22nd pick in the 2000 draft, Boston seriously considered Jason Stokes before balking at his $2.5 million pricetag. Instead they took Dumatrait, who blossomed suddenly after not being drafted as a high school senior in 1999, and signed him for $1.275 million. While Stokes is now a top slugging prospect with the Marlins, Dumatrait has become the Red Sox’ top pitching prospect. Strengths: Dumatrait’s plus-plus curveball is the best breaking pitch in the Boston system. The new Red Sox front office values pitchability as well as pure stuff, and Dumatrait has a very good feel for his craft. His fastball is a solid average offering at 89-92 mph. Weaknesses: His curve is an out pitch, but Dumatrait sometimes uses it too much at the expense of his changeup, which needs refinement. He also has to tweak his command after it got away from him a little bit at high Class A Sarasota. The Future: The Red Sox haven’t had a homegrown lefty win in double digits since Tom Bolton in 1990. Dumatrait, who’s headed back to high Class A, is the best hope to end that drought if Casey Fossum can’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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