July 30, 200322 yr We're all caught up in how well all of our prospects are doin......we've forgotten all about Kris!!!! here are his numbers..... we love him 8-5 2.67 ERA 104.1 IP 86 H 95 K's 31 BB's 3 to 1 K:BB ratio is always nice Cotts has apparently won our Hearts.... but let us not forget Honel.
July 30, 200322 yr Honel and Cotts will be studs as long as Reed. They are the top 3 in my book right now.
July 30, 200322 yr We were worried about losing Cotts to Texas, and we knew Honel wasn't going anywhere. I think that is why we focused on Cotts so much.
July 30, 200322 yr Author We were worried about losing Cotts to Texas, and we knew Honel wasn't going anywhere. I think that is why we focused on Cotts so much. maybe......but I think for the large part of the year..... Cotts has been in the spotlight (deservingly so) here at Soxtalk. I just wanted to remind everyone of how well he was doin.
July 30, 200322 yr We're all caught up in how well all of our prospects are doin......we've forgotten all about Kris!!!! here are his numbers..... we love him 8-5 2.67 ERA 104.1 IP 86 H 95 K's 31 BB's 3 to 1 K:BB ratio is always nice Cotts has apparently won our Hearts.... but let us not forget Honel. cotts is the closest to the majors out of the 2. if they were in the same area of development, i will bet there would be an argument on who should be brought up. honel is going to be, imho better than cotts if he doesn't get hurt again. there is another pitcher i am looking at and that is jason strumm.
July 30, 200322 yr I didn't forget about him! Everytime Cotts is mentioned I always think what a rotation with him and Honel would look like
July 30, 200322 yr We were worried about losing Cotts to Texas, and we knew Honel wasn't going anywhere. I think that is why we focused on Cotts so much. I think its mainly because Cotts and Reed are closer to the majors. Honel is still the #1 prospect in my book. I kind of call the three of them 1A, B, and C with Borchard behind them.
July 30, 200322 yr maybe......but I think for the large part of the year..... Cotts has been in the spotlight (deservingly so) here at Soxtalk. I just wanted to remind everyone of how well he was doin. maybe people are looking for a ray of light in getting taken to the clearance by billy beane. btw jas how can you say that kw is going to be a great gm??????????? are you drunk
July 30, 200322 yr Author We're all caught up in how well all of our prospects are doin......we've forgotten all about Kris!!!! here are his numbers..... we love him 8-5 2.67 ERA 104.1 IP 86 H 95 K's 31 BB's 3 to 1 K:BB ratio is always nice Cotts has apparently won our Hearts.... but let us not forget Honel. cotts is the closest to the majors out of the 2. if they were in the same area of development, i will bet there would be an argument on who should be brought up. honel is going to be, imho better than cotts if he doesn't get hurt again. there is another pitcher i am looking at and that is jason strumm. Stumm is a walking band-aid unfortunately...... but he has pitched this year (pretty avg) outta the pen and thats a good sign. He was a 2nd rd pick I believe and now is atbest a good canidate for a future closer. (Arm has been beatin up)
July 30, 200322 yr maybe......but I think for the large part of the year..... Cotts has been in the spotlight (deservingly so) here at Soxtalk. I just wanted to remind everyone of how well he was doin. maybe people are looking for a ray of light in getting taken to the clearance by billy beane. btw jas how can you say that kw is going to be a great gm??????????? are you drunk Because he's willing to make a team better and isn't afraid what the media will think. Look at everyone he's given up and Biddle, Kip and Foulke are about the only ones I can think that are producing at a good level elsewhere. While thats happened Sox have had Marte, Colon, Elo (He admitted it was luck, although Gammons said KW told him when he signed Elo that he could be a sleeper), Alomar, Everett, and I'm sure I'm forgetting quite a few cause I'm tired. I didn't mention prospects he's received or prospects he's given up cause until they reach the majors and produce they are just prospects.
July 30, 200322 yr Author maybe......but I think for the large part of the year..... Cotts has been in the spotlight (deservingly so) here at Soxtalk. I just wanted to remind everyone of how well he was doin. maybe people are looking for a ray of light in getting taken to the clearance by billy beane. btw jas how can you say that kw is going to be a great gm??????????? are you drunk LDF here are of some of Stumm's numbers this year. Just thought you might be interested if you already didn't know them. 1-0 4.12 ERA 19.2 IP 22 H 19 K 10 BB's But ya gotta keep in mind.....he had surgery before the season started, the year b4 that as well. Just an FYI thought you'd be interested.
July 30, 200322 yr We're all caught up in how well all of our prospects are doin......we've forgotten all about Kris!!!! here are his numbers..... we love him 8-5 2.67 ERA 104.1 IP 86 H 95 K's 31 BB's 3 to 1 K:BB ratio is always nice Cotts has apparently won our Hearts.... but let us not forget Honel. cotts is the closest to the majors out of the 2. if they were in the same area of development, i will bet there would be an argument on who should be brought up. honel is going to be, imho better than cotts if he doesn't get hurt again. there is another pitcher i am looking at and that is jason strumm. Stumm is a walking band-aid unfortunately...... but he has pitched this year (pretty avg) outta the pen and thats a good sign. He was a 2nd rd pick I believe and now is atbest a good canidate for a future closer. (Arm has been beatin up) he was a first rounder and yes he has been hurt really bad, but you can't deny his potential and talent. his velo is getting back up to the mid and higher 90's. maybe making him a rp may do the trick.
July 30, 200322 yr Author I think it's scary when you look at the depth the whitesox have in RP in the minors.... I mean we dealt like 6 Minor League Relievers so far...... and were still strong in that spot. I like this Yofu guy as well..... I want him to be our Kaz sasaki.
July 30, 200322 yr maybe......but I think for the large part of the year..... Cotts has been in the spotlight (deservingly so) here at Soxtalk. I just wanted to remind everyone of how well he was doin. maybe people are looking for a ray of light in getting taken to the clearance by billy beane. btw jas how can you say that kw is going to be a great gm??????????? are you drunk Because he's willing to make a team better and isn't afraid what the media will think. Look at everyone he's given up and Biddle, Kip and Foulke are about the only ones I can think that are producing at a good level elsewhere. While thats happened Sox have had Marte, Colon, Elo (He admitted it was luck, although Gammons said KW told him when he signed Elo that he could be a sleeper), Alomar, Everett, and I'm sure I'm forgetting quite a few cause I'm tired. I didn't mention prospects he's received or prospects he's given up cause until they reach the majors and produce they are just prospects. yep the adkin for durham, foulke for botch and cotts, the berry/berry, the kipper trades.............. oh yeah i see him being majectical as the great gm of the sox.
July 30, 200322 yr I think it's scary when you look at the depth the whitesox have in RP in the minors.... I mean we dealt like 6 Minor League Relievers so far...... and were still strong in that spot. I like this Yofu guy as well..... I want him to be our Kaz sasaki. i know i am very intrigue with tofu as well. i know about strumm, i been following him since the sox drafted him. i have been a fan of his since then. i just hope he can make it to the majors.
July 30, 200322 yr Author Well it's good to know that Kris is still well thought of around here. I think he was just kind of put on the back burner especially with all of these other prospects doing so well......and the possibility of those prospects leaving. Good to see Sweeney is back playing again tonight.....got a hit.
July 30, 200322 yr Author I pray to god that Reed Honel and Cotts all bypass AAA......Charlotte is the place where all good prospects go to die. I just hope Arnie Munoz gets his act together.....cause he's shud be a deadly pitcher for the sox.
July 30, 200322 yr I pray to god that Reed Honel and Cotts all bypass AAA......Charlotte is the place where all good prospects go to die. I just hope Arnie Munoz gets his act together.....cause he's shud be a deadly pitcher for the sox. he is overworked and needed a place to pitch. i think it is a shoo in that munoz is going to make it, it is a question of time.
July 30, 200322 yr Author I pray to god that Reed Honel and Cotts all bypass AAA......Charlotte is the place where all good prospects go to die. I just hope Arnie Munoz gets his act together.....cause he's shud be a deadly pitcher for the sox. he is overworked and needed a place to pitch. i think it is a shoo in that munoz is going to make it, it is a question of time. You make a great point about him getting overworked. he pitched a good 100 innings between Birmingham's season....Postseason and winter ball. They were actually talking about making him a starter this year...... Me thinks his arm is a little to weak to do so. Gotta like his Zito-esque curve though.... closer next year????
July 30, 200322 yr I pray to god that Reed Honel and Cotts all bypass AAA......Charlotte is the place where all good prospects go to die. I just hope Arnie Munoz gets his act together.....cause he's shud be a deadly pitcher for the sox. he is overworked and needed a place to pitch. i think it is a shoo in that munoz is going to make it, it is a question of time. You make a great point about him getting overworked. he pitched a good 100 innings between Birmingham's season....Postseason and winter ball. They were actually talking about making him a starter this year...... Me thinks his arm is a little to weak to do so. Gotta like his Zito-esque curve though.... closer next year???? i think so, but i kinda of question if he is starter material.
July 30, 200322 yr I pray to god that Reed Honel and Cotts all bypass AAA......Charlotte is the place where all good prospects go to die. I just hope Arnie Munoz gets his act together.....cause he's shud be a deadly pitcher for the sox. he is overworked and needed a place to pitch. i think it is a shoo in that munoz is going to make it, it is a question of time. You make a great point about him getting overworked. he pitched a good 100 innings between Birmingham's season....Postseason and winter ball. They were actually talking about making him a starter this year...... Me thinks his arm is a little to weak to do so. Gotta like his Zito-esque curve though.... closer next year???? Remember...he just turned 21.
July 30, 200322 yr Stumm is a walking band-aid unfortunately...... but he has pitched this year (pretty avg) outta the pen and thats a good sign. He was a 2nd rd pick I believe and now is atbest a good canidate for a future closer. (Arm has been beatin up) Hate to say it Murcie, but you off on Stumm on two accounts... First, he was a 1st round pick in 1999 (15th overall) Second, he has been outstanding at Winston-Salem this year. They have been very cautious with him and he has only pitched two full innings twice. He has only had one bad outing (his most recent) and he has only given up runs in four of his 17 outings. He gave up 5 runs in his last outing, taking his ERA from 1.89 to 4.12. This is another situation where looking into a player's numbers can give you a different outlook than just by looking at the numbers alone. The Sox are being very careful to protect their investment with him. I have heard reports that he is the real deal and the only question about him is whether he can stay healthy. It is not out of the question the Sox make him a starter again, after a complete healthy season. Yes, Stumm has had setbacks early on, but the door is far from closed with him.
July 30, 200322 yr Stumm is a walking band-aid unfortunately...... but he has pitched this year (pretty avg) outta the pen and thats a good sign. He was a 2nd rd pick I believe and now is atbest a good canidate for a future closer. (Arm has been beatin up) Hate to say it Murcie, but you off on Stumm on two accounts... First, he was a 1st round pick in 1999 (15th overall) Second, he has been outstanding at Winston-Salem this year. They have been very cautious with him and he has only pitched two full innings twice. He has only had one bad outing (his most recent) and he has only given up runs in four of his 17 outings. He gave up 5 runs in his last outing, taking his ERA from 1.89 to 4.12. This is another situation where looking into a player's numbers can give you a different outlook than just by looking at the numbers alone. The Sox are being very careful to protect their investment with him. I have heard reports that he is the real deal and the only question about him is whether he can stay healthy. It is not out of the question the Sox make him a starter again, after a complete healthy season. Yes, Stumm has had setbacks early on, but the door is far from closed with him. Thanks for clearing that up Rex, I could swear he had pitched better this season than those numbers illustrated. I've been seeing lots of zeros beside Stumm's name this year in box scores.
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