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Wings D Ian White on Gary Bettman: "I personally think he's an idiot. Since he's come in, I think he's done nothing but damage the game."

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Kris Versteeg tells @tsn1050radio in Toronto that Bettman and Daly are "cancers' that have been "looting this game for far too long".

Forgive my rant here: Hockey is the most poorly run sport in the history of mankind. Here we are with another work stoppage, another lost season. You've got Fehr holding out like this is the national pastime, baseball. This is hockey, a sport with a very very very limited fanbase and limited TV dollars. What the hell do the players want? Seems to me they make a helluva lot of money compared to the amount of money in the pot in this sport with a limited audience.

 

So this season is wiped out. After killing a whole season do you think the owners will cave at all next summer? It'll be back to the negotiating tables again about next September and they'll have 3 weeks to get a deal done again.

 

At least football was smart enough to realize they had to get a deal done. Hockey? What a bunch of morons to let this drag out like this again.

Edited November 19, 201213 yr by greg775

Screw Bettman.

 

Well, I'm looking forward to the world juniors this year. f*** Canada.

Forgive my rant here: Hockey is the most poorly run sport in the history of mankind. Here we are with another work stoppage, another lost season. You've got Fehr holding out like this is the national pastime, baseball. This is hockey, a sport with a very very very limited fanbase and limited TV dollars. What the hell do the players want? Seems to me they make a helluva lot of money compared to the amount of money in the pot in this sport with a limited audience.

 

So this season is wiped out. After killing a whole season do you think the owners will cave at all next summer? It'll be back to the negotiating tables again about next September and they'll have 3 weeks to get a deal done again.

 

At least football was smart enough to realize they had to get a deal done. Hockey? What a bunch of morons to let this drag out like this again.

I can't forgive your rant when you probably haven't spent 10 seconds researching the lockout and are throwing it all on the players for being greedy.

 

I didn't forgive the rant; I rolled my eyes at it.

The NHL has been pretty mismanaged for years and it isn't the players' fault.

I need to decide whether I can make non-changeable, alternative plans for 12/7, which is when I have Hawks/Devils tix. Even if by some miracle they reached an agreement this week, there's no way they'd be playing that soon, is there? I'd estimate a 2% chance, at best.

I need to decide whether I can make non-changeable, alternative plans for 12/7, which is when I have Hawks/Devils tix. Even if by some miracle they reached an agreement this week, there's no way they'd be playing that soon, is there? I'd estimate a 2% chance, at best.

They absolutely will not be playing 12/7.

They absolutely will not be playing 12/7.

 

Yeah, no matter when/if they settle this, it is going to be at least a month before they start playing real games.

I need to decide whether I can make non-changeable, alternative plans for 12/7, which is when I have Hawks/Devils tix. Even if by some miracle they reached an agreement this week, there's no way they'd be playing that soon, is there? I'd estimate a 2% chance, at best.

If they reach a deal this week, they would for sure be playing by the 7th.

 

If you can hold out a little longer, the next wave of cancellations should be any day now.

Thanks. I remember it took about a month for the NBA, but wasn't sure if hockey might be different.

If they reach a deal this week, they would for sure be playing by the 7th.

 

If you can hold out a little longer, the next wave of cancellations should be any day now.

 

You think they could get through training camps and exhibitions in a bit over two weeks?

You think they could get through training camps and exhibitions in a bit over two weeks?

Yes. Daly had a quote earlier in October where he said something like "camps would have to open by Friday for the season to begin a week later."

 

This is when they were referencing starting Nov 2nd weekend.

 

I don't even know that they'd have exhibition games.

Yes. Daly had a quote earlier in October where he said something like "camps would have to open by Friday for the season to begin a week later."

 

This is when they were referencing starting Nov 2nd weekend.

 

I don't even know that they'd have exhibition games.

 

Wow. That is crazy.

Wow. That is crazy.

It does seem nuts, but it's going to be a rush if they ever get something done. That was the first time they hinted at starting the season as early as a week after an agreement. I don't know if that would hold, or if they would allow more time, but I'm positive Daly said that before a slew of games got cancelled.

Wow. That is crazy.

 

That will be some ugly hockey at the beginning I bet.

That will be some ugly hockey at the beginning I bet.

 

I remember stories from the last big lockout about Keith Tkachuk coming into camp at almost 300 pounds. I'm sure there would be plenty of those kind of stories.

I remember stories from the last big lockout about Keith Tkachuk coming into camp at almost 300 pounds. I'm sure there would be plenty of those kind of stories.

 

You know Dusty Buff would be a #1 contender for most out of shape after a lockout.

Yeah, no matter when/if they settle this, it is going to be at least a month before they start playing real games.

 

Was told by the Hawks 2 week lead time. I have 250 tickets for a late December game that the Hawks owe me $4,000 if they do not play.

You know Dusty Buff would be a #1 contender for most out of shape after a lockout.

 

I could easily see him coming in a 300+, considering he is a big dude anyway.

http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/8659872/...ehr-says-report

 

6 million over 5 years

 

OR

 

Losing 6 billion.

 

Do I need to fly to NY and explain the math here?

 

I still have no confidence, because it's the f***ing NHL, but IF they are that close...you would think they could figure this out now.

I need to decide whether I can make non-changeable, alternative plans for 12/7, which is when I have Hawks/Devils tix. Even if by some miracle they reached an agreement this week, there's no way they'd be playing that soon, is there? I'd estimate a 2% chance, at best.

 

They just cancelled through the 14th.

They just cancelled through the 14th.

Yup, told him to wait a few days and he'd have it.

They just cancelled through the 14th.

 

And the All-Star game in Columbus