September 23, 201312 yr QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Sep 23, 2013 -> 03:06 PM) I think there are a bunch of guys lumped at the top. Sale should be top 3, but I won't feel ripped off when he doesn't win it. I just hope he land sin the the top 5 somewhere so people will think to look at his numbers. I think the voters are willing to overlook W/L record if all the other numbers blow everyone else away. There are too many guys having similar seasons to Sale for the voters to ignore W/L. That being said, I agree with you 100%. Should be top 3 will probably be 4-5. Edited September 23, 201312 yr by lasttriptotulsa
September 25, 201312 yr Sale has 2.97 ERA compared to 2012's 3.05. Hopefully it doesn't do any rising this week
September 27, 201312 yr If Sale had 20 wins on a crappy team like this, how many of us would be pointing towards wins to build his case?
September 27, 201312 yr QUOTE (Tex @ Sep 27, 2013 -> 05:28 AM) If Sale had 20 wins on a crappy team like this, how many of us would be pointing towards wins to build his case? That would certainly be pretty impressive if he had 1/3 of the team's total wins.
September 27, 201312 yr Frankly, I think it would be more lucky than anything else and, conversely, he has been unlucky to go 11-13. Here are some of his lines from games he has gotten a ND or a L. 7.1 IP, 6 H, 1 ER, 0 BB, 5 K (ND, Sox won 2-1) 8 IP, 6 H, 0 ER (2 R), 1 BB, 14 K (L, Sox lost 2-1) 8 IP, 4 H, 3 ER, 2 BB, 13 K (ND, Sox won 5-4) 8 IP, 7 H, 3 ER, 1 BB, 10 K (L, Sox lost 4-0) 7 IP, 6 H, 2 ER (3 R), 1 BB, 9 K (L, Sox lost 3-0) 8 IP, 7 H, 2 ER (4 R), 3 BB, 11 K (L, Sox lost 7-3) 9 IP, 7 H, 1 ER, 1 BB, 7 K (L, Sox lost 1-0) 7.1 IP, 5 H, 2 ER (3 R), 1 BB, 6 K (ND, Sox lost 6-4) 7.2 IP, 4 H, 0 ER, 1 BB, 7 K (ND, Sox lost 7-6) There were a few others he could have won (had a 6 IP, 1 R outing against Oakland that I didn't mention), but I wanted to make a point to show how many times he pitched through at least the 7th inning and still got a no decision or loss. With run support and/or better defense, it's safe to say that he wins at least 7 of those. If we give him 3 ND's and 4 of those losses, he is at 18-9. Because he's 11-13, does it reflect on how he's pitched this year? What more could he have done in these games to get himself a win? Edited September 27, 201312 yr by witesoxfan
September 27, 201312 yr QUOTE (Tex @ Sep 27, 2013 -> 05:28 AM) If Sale had 20 wins on a crappy team like this, how many of us would be pointing towards wins to build his case? Not many of us.
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