johndyce Posted December 16, 2002 Share Posted December 16, 2002 I think if we traded him in an Ortiz deal, it would be a good deal. He just came off a career year, in which he really tailed off in the end of the season. This means we could get alot for him. It would also be good because as we know, thomas wants to play some first. I think if Frank is happy and is motivated and in good shape like he says he is, he will have his best season since 99. I think we would miss more of Konerko's leadership than his offensive production. Just my humble opinion... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonkeyKongerko Posted December 16, 2002 Share Posted December 16, 2002 well i guess i could handle trading PK or more favorably, CLee. But isnt it quite a blow to our white sox to trade both away..? I mean Lee's name has come up in just about every trade talk so far this offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 17, 2002 Share Posted December 17, 2002 I think if we move PK, we are doing one thing right and thats trading a guy while his value is at a peak. The question is are we dealing Konerko or Lee. If we are move either of them and still get Ainsworth and Ortiz, then I will be extremely excited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac9001 Posted December 17, 2002 Share Posted December 17, 2002 Originally posted by ChisoxfnThe question is are we dealing Konerko or Lee. If we are move either of them and still get Ainsworth and Ortiz, then I will be extremely excited. I'm with you, if we get Ainsworth and Ortiz our rotation looks pretty good, maybe good enough to beat the Twins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 17, 2002 Share Posted December 17, 2002 Yep, we'd have Ainsworth and Rauch as the backup plans in case Ritchie fails, then again maybe the Sox just pass on Ritchie and then if they get Ainsworth and Ortiz they then do the so called Colon deal? Just throwing it out their. It would be very un-Sox like, but it seems like the players we are giving up, aren't the ones the Expos were looking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkDJ Posted December 17, 2002 Share Posted December 17, 2002 It blows me away to see so many people possibly supporting Konerko being traded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 17, 2002 Share Posted December 17, 2002 I'm not saying I support it, but I see some sense to it. I only will support it if the deal makes sense and you can't know that until it is finalized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted December 17, 2002 Share Posted December 17, 2002 lee is one of kw's yes men... i honestly do not think hes going anywhere while kw is around... im sure his name only comes up as a pr stunt, because kw knows how much we think so highly of lee and would love to see him gone..lol.. thus keeping the fans interest if he mentions his name in each and every trade..if someone actually did take kw up on lee im sure he would find a way to wiggle out of it fast..........jmho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac9001 Posted December 17, 2002 Share Posted December 17, 2002 pitching is what wins you games, any trade that improves your staff, you have to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted December 17, 2002 Share Posted December 17, 2002 If we trade PK, mail in my tenure as a Sox fan because I'm done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 17, 2002 Share Posted December 17, 2002 I tend to agree with you. I am big on pitching. I like offense too, but right now, I just try to sit back and take things for what they are worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted December 17, 2002 Share Posted December 17, 2002 Can anyone confirm that Gammons actually said that we were 100% trading for Ortiz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted December 17, 2002 Share Posted December 17, 2002 yeah he said it on espn tv .. i havent seen anyting in his column though on the web site as of yet........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkDJ Posted December 17, 2002 Share Posted December 17, 2002 I'm sure we can get Ortiz for much less than Konerko. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 17, 2002 Share Posted December 17, 2002 Its been reported on the TV, as well as on the radio or at least I heard it on the radio. They were talking about the Giants moving Ortiz to the Sox and said some sources are saying its for prospects, others saying its for Konerko or Lee. I think the sides are very close, and are just figuring out which way each team wants to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted December 17, 2002 Share Posted December 17, 2002 ive got a freakin headache.. and my ears hurt from sitting on the cell phone........please stop the madness........do the deal and lets get it over with already..........im running out of tylenol........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted December 17, 2002 Share Posted December 17, 2002 Give them Malone, Sanders and whoever else they want besides Diaz/Honel/Borchard and I'm fine. Just don't trade Konerko! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Showtime Posted December 17, 2002 Share Posted December 17, 2002 haha, I get it now. We're going to trade Konerko, then sign Fred McGriff to be that lefty power hitter we've needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted December 17, 2002 Share Posted December 17, 2002 hsc says------->thats not funny showtime... reaches for the tumms and zantac as well as tylenol.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 17, 2002 Share Posted December 17, 2002 I did consider the fact that the Sox could bring in Mcgriff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted December 17, 2002 Share Posted December 17, 2002 :puke:puke:puke:puke:puke:puke :puke:puke:puke:puke:puke:puke :puke:puke:puke:puke:puke:puke:puke :puke:puke:puke:puke:puke:puke :puke:puke:puke:puke:puke:puke :puke:puke:puke:puke:puke:puke thats about all i have to say on the mcgriff subject........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Showtime Posted December 17, 2002 Share Posted December 17, 2002 You know he's the kind of guy Williams would bring in to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 17, 2002 Share Posted December 17, 2002 He is a quality veteran and overall put up decent numbers. Would he really be that bad in the 5 hole, providing left handed power? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted December 17, 2002 Share Posted December 17, 2002 yes. he would jas..........i can think of others i would want in there.. and besides where ya going to play him on the field???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 17, 2002 Share Posted December 17, 2002 I think we all know him and Frank are lousy first baseman, but you could have them both platoon. Still, I'd most like to see Jeff Kent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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