Wait a minute. Steff, on many occasions has invited people to tailgates, and tries to get people tickets, and shes a pompous ass? Hmmm, interesting.

You're strange. Most people I know and am friends with ARE NOT season ticket holders yet support the team when they can. And sorry but unlike you I don't base my friendships on ones ability to attend baseball games. Heck.. some of my friends are even.. gasp... Cub fans who have never even been to Comiskey.

 

You need some help.

You seem like a nice person, so I will be nice.

I have no idea what you are talking about.

 

I told my friends who were interested in tonight's game the story.

The LD is sold out are we still on?

They said no. They don't want to go if they don't get access to the LD concourse.

End of story.

 

I don't s*** on my SOX fan friends. I respect their opinions.

They don't want to go now, & I can't really argue with them.

They are still my friends & I think no less of them in their decision.

You're strange. Most people I know and am friends with ARE NOT season ticket holders yet support the team when they can. And sorry but unlike you I don't base my friendships on ones ability to attend baseball games. Heck.. some of my friends are even.. gasp... Cub fans who have never even been to Comiskey.

 

You need some help.

You seem like a nice person, so I will be nice.

I have no idea what you are talking about.

 

I told my friends who were interested in tonight's game the story.

The LD is sold out are we still on?

They said no. They don't want to go if they don't get access to the LD concourse.

End of story.

 

I don't s*** on my SOX fan friends. I respect their opinions.

They don't want to go now, & I can't really argue with them.

They are still my friends & I think no less of them in their decision.

Jaggernut.. you need to go back and read the first page of this thread. You were very rude and confrontational (by giving us ST Holders a big :fyou ) because we didn't answer your poll the right way. Obviously this thread took a wrong turn somewhere... but you were at the wheel. Why don't you head down there today and get tickets for tomorrow. Yes... they will be full price, but at least you'll have them and be in the LD. BTW.. just because TM says the lower bowl is sold doesn't mean it is. They ususlly hold tickets (for whatever reason) and a lot of the time you can get sweet LD seats right before gametime. Additionally.. there is ALWAYS guys in lot E selling LD tickets for face and sometimes less. Like tonight, they'll sell them at half price just to get rid of them.

I've seen a reference where the season ticket holder base is 13,000.

Steff claims it's 17,000.

 

The season avg is 23,066.

So I think this is an important stat in this argument as it looks like the non-season ticket holders are about 43% of attendance.

I've seen a reference where the season ticket holder base is 13,000.

Steff claims it's 17,000.

 

The season avg is 23,066.

So I think this is an important stat in this argument as it looks like the non-season ticket holders are about 43% of attendance.

Season ticket base is 15,152 as reported at the Season Ticket Holders party 2 weeks ago.

You're strange. Most people I know and am friends with ARE NOT season ticket holders yet support the team when they can. And sorry but unlike you I don't base my friendships on ones ability to attend baseball games. Heck.. some of my friends are even.. gasp... Cub fans who have never even been to Comiskey.

 

You need some help.

You seem like a nice person, so I will be nice.

I have no idea what you are talking about.

 

I told my friends who were interested in tonight's game the story.

The LD is sold out are we still on?

They said no. They don't want to go if they don't get access to the LD concourse.

End of story.

 

I don't s*** on my SOX fan friends. I respect their opinions.

They don't want to go now, & I can't really argue with them.

They are still my friends & I think no less of them in their decision.

Jaggernut.. you need to go back and read the first page of this thread. You were very rude and confrontational (by giving us ST Holders a big :fyou ) because we didn't answer your poll the right way. Obviously this thread took a wrong turn somewhere... but you were at the wheel. Why don't you head down there today and get tickets for tomorrow. Yes... they will be full price, but at least you'll have them and be in the LD. BTW.. just because TM says the lower bowl is sold doesn't mean it is. They ususlly hold tickets (for whatever reason) and a lot of the time you can get sweet LD seats right before gametime. Additionally.. there is ALWAYS guys in lot E selling LD tickets for face and sometimes less. Like tonight, they'll sell them at half price just to get rid of them.

Steff you're wrong. I did not become rude & confrontational until season ticket holders went that route by telling us walk-up fans what to do & where to go.

 

I'll see if I can convince my friends to go the "chance" route.

They've never shown that face before but it's worth a try.

 

Thanks for the info.

Then vote MAYBE! How am I going to get the policy changed if the NO votes > YES votes.

 

And to you season ticket holders ... a BIG WIDE :fyou.

 

When the team is s***ty in years to come because we still can't support a 70MIL payroll because of ASS-   like you I'll be sure to throw your pompous exclusive vote up your ass!

Yeah.. you were not at all rude or confrontational...

I've seen a reference where the season ticket holder base is 13,000.

Steff claims it's 17,000.

 

The season avg is 23,066.

So I think this is an important stat in this argument as it looks like the non-season ticket holders are about 43% of attendance.

Season ticket base is 15,152 as reported at the Season Ticket Holders party 2 weeks ago.

Does that number include partial season & pkg holders or just full season?

Would you happen to know the number of partial & pkg holders?

 

Just trying to figure out how much is attributed to walk-ups like myself.

 

It's not a matter of $$$ for me as it is scheduling. I'm out of town a lot, & I don't have die-hard friends who are SOX fans that would go in my place.

I've seen a reference where the season ticket holder base is 13,000.

Steff claims it's 17,000.

 

The season avg is 23,066.

So I think this is an important stat in this argument as it looks like the non-season ticket holders are about 43% of attendance.

Season ticket base is 15,152 as reported at the Season Ticket Holders party 2 weeks ago.

Does that number include partial season & pkg holders or just full season?

Would you happen to know the number of partial & pkg holders?

 

Just trying to figure out how much is attributed to walk-ups like myself.

 

It's not a matter of $$$ for me as it is scheduling. I'm out of town a lot, & I don't have die-hard friends who are SOX fans that would go in my place.

I believe that's each person who holds a ST package - whatever it may be. No idea on the breakdown. Maybe Corg can answer that one.

As lackluster as White Sox attendance has been, they have the highest average per home date in the AL Central.

Then vote MAYBE! How am I going to get the policy changed if the NO votes > YES votes.

 

And to you season ticket holders ... a BIG WIDE :fyou.

 

When the team is s***ty in years to come because we still can't support a 70MIL payroll because of ASS-   like you I'll be sure to throw your pompous exclusive vote up your ass!

Yeah.. you were not at all rude or confrontational...

Steff, come on now.

That was after the posts complaining about what I should have done & such & such.

 

This was a non-confrontational thread looking solely for votes but suddenly turned into a season ticket holder's diatribe on why walk-ups suck.

 

Well far be it for me to throw some fire in the other direction.

Wait a minute. Steff, on many occasions has invited people to tailgates, and tries to get people tickets, and shes a pompous ass? Hmmm, interesting.

"Get off your high horse and become a season ticket holder.. whiner."

 

"We are the ones who put up money to go to games. We are the ones they base their payroll on, not someone who is too cheap to buy a ticket in the lower deck."

 

"What's he gonna do....throw stuff at you from his seat WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY up there????

He certainly can't come DOWN and look for you!!!"

 

Yes, calling people "whiners", "cheap" and talk of being "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY up there" could be considered to have a pompous attitude.

Then vote MAYBE!   How am I going to get the policy changed if the NO votes > YES votes.

 

And to you season ticket holders ... a BIG WIDE   :fyou.

 

When the team is s***ty in years to come because we still can't support a 70MIL payroll because of ASS-   like you I'll be sure to throw your pompous exclusive vote up your ass!

Yeah.. you were not at all rude or confrontational...

Steff, come on now.

That was after the posts complaining about what I should have done & such & such.

 

This was a non-confrontational thread looking solely for votes but suddenly turned into a season ticket holder's diatribe on why walk-ups suck.

 

Well far be it for me to throw some fire in the other direction.

That came after a post which said pay more for the LD which you replied it wasn't about money, and a post asking where you would sit considering the lower bowl is sold out. It was unprovoked,uncalled for, and totally immature. There were no posts remotely saying walk ups suck. Re read it from the beginning.

Then vote MAYBE!   How am I going to get the policy changed if the NO votes > YES votes.

 

And to you season ticket holders ... a BIG WIDE   :fyou.

 

When the team is s***ty in years to come because we still can't support a 70MIL payroll because of ASS-   like you I'll be sure to throw your pompous exclusive vote up your ass!

Yeah.. you were not at all rude or confrontational...

Steff, come on now.

That was after the posts complaining about what I should have done & such & such.

 

This was a non-confrontational thread looking solely for votes but suddenly turned into a season ticket holder's diatribe on why walk-ups suck.

 

Well far be it for me to throw some fire in the other direction.

Can you show me where someone said walk ups suck..?

"Get off your high horse and become a season ticket holder.. whiner."

 

"We are the ones who put up money to go to games. We are the ones they base their payroll on, not someone who is too cheap to buy a ticket in the lower deck."

 

"What's he gonna do....throw stuff at you from his seat WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY up there????

He certainly can't come DOWN and look for you!!!"

 

Yes, calling people "whiners", "cheap" and talk of being "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY up there" could be considered to have a pompous attitude.

 

 

ALL of which was posted AFTER he called us assholes and told us to :fyou .

 

Keep up.

Then vote MAYBE! How am I going to get the policy changed if the NO votes > YES votes.

 

And to you season ticket holders ... a BIG WIDE :fyou.

 

When the team is s***ty in years to come because we still can't support a 70MIL payroll because of ASS-   like you I'll be sure to throw your pompous exclusive vote up your ass!

Yeah.. you were not at all rude or confrontational...

Steff, come on now.

That was after the posts complaining about what I should have done & such & such.

 

This was a non-confrontational thread looking solely for votes but suddenly turned into a season ticket holder's diatribe on why walk-ups suck.

 

Well far be it for me to throw some fire in the other direction.

Can you show me where someone said walk ups suck..?

Steff, I paraphrased so as not to re-write a book. The basic theme of those early posts by the season ticket holders basically stated walk-ups suck.

Then vote MAYBE!   How am I going to get the policy changed if the NO votes > YES votes.

 

And to you season ticket holders ... a BIG WIDE   :fyou.

 

When the team is s***ty in years to come because we still can't support a 70MIL payroll because of ASS-   like you I'll be sure to throw your pompous exclusive vote up your ass!

Yeah.. you were not at all rude or confrontational...

Steff, come on now.

That was after the posts complaining about what I should have done & such & such.

 

This was a non-confrontational thread looking solely for votes but suddenly turned into a season ticket holder's diatribe on why walk-ups suck.

 

Well far be it for me to throw some fire in the other direction.

Can you show me where someone said walk ups suck..?

Steff, I paraphrased so as not to re-write a book. The basic theme of those early posts by the season ticket holders basically stated walk-ups suck.

Sorry.. but not one person, except you, said that. Don't even see anywhere where it was even close to being implied.

Then vote MAYBE! How am I going to get the policy changed if the NO votes > YES votes.

 

And to you season ticket holders ... a BIG WIDE :fyou.

 

When the team is s***ty in years to come because we still can't support a 70MIL payroll because of ASS-   like you I'll be sure to throw your pompous exclusive vote up your ass!

Yeah.. you were not at all rude or confrontational...

Steff, come on now.

That was after the posts complaining about what I should have done & such & such.

 

This was a non-confrontational thread looking solely for votes but suddenly turned into a season ticket holder's diatribe on why walk-ups suck.

 

Well far be it for me to throw some fire in the other direction.

Can you show me where someone said walk ups suck..?

Steff, I paraphrased so as not to re-write a book. The basic theme of those early posts by the season ticket holders basically stated walk-ups suck.

Sorry.. but not one person, except you, said that. Don't even see anywhere where it was even close to being implied.

It's not worth the time to go through all posts in both threads to see the offenses.

The hand-writing is on the wall in the votes.

 

Since you season-ticket holders don't believe it affects attendance & you're Gods as far as SOX policies go then it doesn't matter what walk-ups like myself think.

 

I hate repeating myself but this is not about price:

My fair-weather SOX fan friends & myself would have easily shelled out $20 for an UD seat & LD concourse access.

 

When you factor parking, tickets, & concessions the total would have come to about

$324.00. But as you say, we are fair-weather fans who go to the Cell mostly to feel good & be entertained. So our $324.00 tonight is not a welcome site.

 

I understand now.

 

Since we had 10 other nights this year on the same basis, I guess we should take our $3240.00 & spend it on some other entertainment venue.

And please stop with the idiocy of saying UD people steal your seat in the LD.

Ever since they added ushers for all sections on the stairwells, they don't let you in the section without the proper ticket. We've sit behind the BPs several times this year on both weekdays & weekends & not once did the usher not check are tickets when returning to our seats.

"Get off your high horse and become a season ticket holder.. whiner."

 

"We are the ones who put up money to go to games. We are the ones they base their payroll on, not someone who is too cheap to buy a ticket in the lower deck."

 

"What's he gonna do....throw stuff at you from his seat WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY up there????

He certainly can't come DOWN and look for you!!!"

 

Yes, calling people "whiners", "cheap" and talk of being "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY up there" could be considered to have a pompous attitude.

 

 

ALL of which was posted AFTER he called us assholes and told us to :fyou .

 

Keep up.

So then it's okay?

 

 

I'd keep up, but you keep changing the rules.

You're right, it's not. So why don't you stop assuming things and making s*** up. Not one person said walk ups sucked. This was about you not being able to get to the park early enough to get LD seats, right? So you were told to buy earlier. You didn't like that answer or that no one would support your poll. That's where your s***ty attitude came into play. You still in your closing post choose to try to s*** on us season ticket holders again. You YOURSELF said that you don't bother to go out to the games unless the Sox are above .500. That speaks in volumes about YOUR support of this team.

And please stop with the idiocy of saying UD people steal your seat in the LD.

Ever since they added ushers for all sections on the stairwells, they don't let you in the section without the proper ticket.  We've sit behind the BPs several times this year on both weekdays & weekends & not once did the usher not check are tickets when returning to our seats.

Ummm.. southsider can you help me out here. Where did we sit Saturday.. 159, right? Did you get asked once to see your ticket before returning to your seat..? I sure didn't.

"Get off your high horse and become a season ticket holder.. whiner."

 

"We are the ones who put up money to go to games. We are the ones they base their payroll on, not someone who is too cheap to buy a ticket in the lower deck."

 

"What's he gonna do....throw stuff at you from his seat WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY up there????

He certainly can't come DOWN and look for you!!!"

 

Yes, calling people "whiners", "cheap" and talk of being "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY up there" could be considered to have a pompous attitude.

 

 

ALL of which was posted AFTER he called us assholes and told us to :fyou .

 

Keep up.

So then it's okay?

 

 

I'd keep up, but you keep changing the rules.

Someone made rules..?

 

Point is that no one was s***ty to him until he attacked.

"Get off your high horse and become a season ticket holder.. whiner."

 

"We are the ones who put up money to go to games. We are the ones they base their payroll on, not someone who is too cheap to buy a ticket in the lower deck."

 

"What's he gonna do....throw stuff at you from his seat WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY up there????

He certainly can't come DOWN and look for you!!!"

 

Yes, calling people "whiners", "cheap" and talk of being "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY up there" could be considered to have a pompous attitude.

 

 

ALL of which was posted AFTER he called us assholes and told us to :fyou .

 

Keep up.

So then it's okay?

 

 

I'd keep up, but you keep changing the rules.

Ok, unlike some of you my mind multi-tasks & relates 1 thing to another.

I'm seeing comments from season ticket holders essentially telling me to go F myself with the UD issue.

Then I'm seeing a slew of NO votes.

 

Translation: 1 in the same.

 

Now maybe some of you aren't as adept in reading betw the lines to find the "go F yourself" implication in posts as others, but they are pretty clear to see for some.

 

Once again, this is a moot point.

The other thread as no such insults & the season ticker holders still voted the same.

The implication of the votes is quite clear.

Ok, unlike some of you my mind multi-tasks & relates 1 thing to another.

I'm seeing comments from season ticket holders essentially telling me to go F myself with the UD issue. 

Then I'm seeing a slew of NO votes.

 

Translation: 1 in the same.

 

Now maybe some of you aren't as adept in reading betw the lines to find the "go F yourself" implication in posts as others, but they are pretty clear to see for some.

 

Once again, this is a moot point.

The other thread as no such insults & the season ticker holders still voted the same.

The implication of the votes is quite clear.

Ok Jagger.. for clarification sake in the future.. unless I tell you to F yourself, don't assume, kay.

 

Your question was would you goto more games.. I said no and even stated why I said no and you STILL got on my ass. You want the policy changed call Fox and get Walter Jacobson on the case. A poll on Sox Talk will do nothing.