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get in, get out, and get on with your life... JMO QUOTE(WhiteSoxFan1 @ Apr 13, 2007 -> 04:21 PM) Oh I know. My latest ex, not only approved, but sadly was more into it than I was. What DB said.... sadly???

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QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Apr 13, 2007 -> 04:30 PM) Only 25 Ks? An off-night I guess. It's the beginning of the season... what do you expect?

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Apr 13, 2007 -> 04:29 PM) Still trying to figure out why you have so much sympathy for him. omg... I'm done... I'm not gonna say it again.

Javy Time... I predict 9 IP, 25 K, and Javy's first of many perfect games this season!

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Apr 13, 2007 -> 04:14 PM) Here is your answer... Page down or search for "Sec. 12‑4. Aggravated Battery.". There are at least 17 different possible circumstances of aggravation notated for battery alone. You are misinformed. This is the first line from that... He wasn't sober when this happened, he was DRUNK! One reason why this was just battery. Another reason is that he did NOT inflict any serious damage to the victim, but only bruises. He didn't use any weapons either. And he did not know the bartender personally either. There is no question that this guy should be fired. BUT, why should the media get so involved, and there is no reason why he should be charged with aggravated battery. There should be no sympathy for him, because he made his bed. But, there is no reason for him to be practically called the second comming of Hitler because he is a cop. If the media makes such a big deal out of this, then should make a big deal out of every battery case involving a man beating a woman. QUOTE(Soxy @ Apr 13, 2007 -> 04:15 PM) I could not disagree with you more. And if people have that little control while drinking 1.) They probably have a drinking problem and 2.) They should stop drinking to that excess. I bet that this cop did have a drinking problem to begin with, and because of his drinking problem, he didn't want to stop drinking, which led to the bartender not giving him another beer, which led to him getting upset and trying to beat her up.

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Apr 13, 2007 -> 04:10 PM) He a friend of yours? How can you speak for him? I would never do that to a woman in a million years whether I was drunk or sober. You say that now, but sometimes you have no control of what you will do when you are drunk. And no, I do not know him personally, or do I know anyone who does know him. I just like to think he joined the force as a way to help the community, in the first place at least.

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Apr 13, 2007 -> 04:00 PM) Sorry BearSox. Not too many people are going to sympathize for cops that go around and beat the crap out of people. go around and beat the crap out of the people??? Which one are you talking about? The 5-6 cops sticking up for their buddy? Or where the drunk cop beat the chick? Who cares about this one? Fire him, and charge him with a misdemeanor. Don't show the world and try and make him seem like Hitler.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Apr 13, 2007 -> 04:01 PM) 1. You are incorrect as to what "aggravated" means. See my earlier posts. There can be various different circumstances of aggravation to elevate a charge like battery to aggravated battery. This includes but is not limited to special authorities (police officers - and in their case it works both directions), use of a weapon, age or gender differentiation (sort of the unfair fight concept), and yes, brutality. To me, this one qualified for Agg Bat on numerous of those circumstances. Now I am not an expert on Illinois criminal statues particularly (I worked in law enforcement but in a different state), but it should be pretty much the same stuff. 2. Not as bad as I think??? Are you serious? A guy beats up a women half his size?! He deserves to not only have his badge stripped, but to go to jail for a while (which will be particularly fun for a cop). And it isn't just the act itself and its brutality - its what it does to the cops who AREN'T slimeballs. It makes them all look bad, and worse, takes away some of their dynamic authority. This guy deserves the book. The chick suffered some bruises... so what. A drunk fumbling around trying to beat up a lady. Do you know how many cases there are similar to this, but much worse? Like i stated, the chick's boyfriend beat the hamburgers out of her a week later, breaking her hip. And no one is making a deal about this. And I know plenty of police officers, and they know the law pretty well, I would think. In IL, at least, aggravated battery must include a broken bone or 25-30 stitches. Yes, he should be fired, as police should not be getting drunk, in public at least. But should he be shown to the world as some sort of horrible person? No. I am sure under normal circumstances he wouldn't have tried to beat her up.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 25, 2007 -> 05:35 PM) That's why its aggravated battery, not simple battery. That's what aggravated means. Special circumstances of extremity - the overmatched brutality, and the fact that he is a cop. If neither were true (if it were some dude in a bar beating up some other dude), then it would be simple battery. In cases of aggravated battery, there must be some type of broken bone, or if there is a cut, there must be at least 25-30 stitches.

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Apr 13, 2007 -> 03:57 PM) Yeah, they must have used CGI in that video. That has no relevance to this case IMO. I think the cop made himself look like the bad guy that he is. The media didn't need to do a damn thing. I can't believe you have some sympathy for this piece of s***. She only got a few bruises. This happens to bartenders all the time. A drunk has a few too many, they won't give the drunk another beer, so the drunk wants to start fighting. I have no sympathy for him. But I am just showing how the media loves to make the police always look like the bad guy.

QUOTE(AssHatSoxFan @ Mar 26, 2007 -> 07:02 AM) bad week for chicago cops continues: http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/03/25/bar.attac...=rss_topstories You know why they haven't showed that video to the public? Because it was just actually a shove fight. Also, the only reason why anything started was because the one copper's dad had recently died, and the 6 cops stopped into the bar, and that one cop was crying, so those 4 no-goods started harrasing him... Let me ask you this. You and your buddies stop into a bar to help cheer up your one buddy who's dad has just died, and a bunch of a-holes start giving him s*** because he is crying. Would you not stick up for your buddy? Or would you tell those guys to shut the f up?

Actually, after looking at the whole story and talking to someone I know who is a cop, it isn't as bad as you think, the media just makes it look worse. He barely beat her, and didn't cause any serious damage. Basically, it was a drunk person attacking a girl, causing little damage. If it wasn't a cop but just some random drunk, I am sure that this wouldn't be a big deal to the media. Do I think he should be fired, probably, as he is a police officer and shouldn't be getting drunk and starting fights. But he is going to get away without getting any charges. They first charged him w/ battery and aggravated battery, but they have dropped the battery charge, and no way he gets convicted of aggravated battery. For those of you who don't know, aggravated battery is where you brutally hurt someone, such as breaking a bone, or causing a wound that needs 25-30 some stitches, whereas regular battery is just basically punching someone, and causing a bruise. Also, what makes this comical is that her boyfriend beat the crap out of her the week after this fight with the cop, breaking her hip, and getting charged with only a misdemeanor. Now, how is it fair that a no-good beats the crap out of her girlfriend and gets charged with a less serious crime then a drunk who barely hurt the girl? Also, how come the media makes no big deal out of her scumbag boyfriend? Again, this is a case of the media making the police look like the bad guys... Even though that this cop is a prick...

yeah... I was watching that. Weurtz pulled a lesser version of a David Aardsma. Those were 3 straight terrible AB's by the Reds though.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Apr 12, 2007 -> 04:44 PM) On the ert... hey Balta... how do you post video's like that?

It is completely ridiculous, but hey, it is the world we live in today, especially with people like Sharpton and Jackson around. Hey, if you are not "PC", this is gonna happen to you. And also, to the Rutgers team, suck it up ladies! So what, someone said you looked like ho's or something like that. That is one man's opinon. If you are going to react like that, you should go to every doorstep in America asking them what they think as well. If you really want to be the bigger people, you would not have whinned like little babies, who cares what someone said about you. Be the bigger people...

Another stupid random question by me, but for Sox fans who don't live or have ever lived in Chicago, is the Sox-Cubs rivalry that big of a deal to you guys like how it is for most of us chicagoans?

Hey Jason... I probably asked you this before, but I forget. Why are you a fan of Chicago Sports? Are you from here? Have family here? I find it kinda odd... maybe a fan of 1 or 2, but the big 3?

good outing for Broadway... And I know, Terrero has been beastly. He was once a highly touted prospect, was he not? Eggy with another good outing... can someone tell me what type of stuff he has? I am not too familiar with him. He was from Rutgers, right? McCulloch got hit pretty good today it seems also.

That would be pretty sweet if something like that could be worked out...

actually, if Jenks doesn't show considerable improvement by mid-may... he could be out of a job.

QUOTE(fathom @ Apr 12, 2007 -> 12:43 AM) Elijah Dukes, end of story.

Remember when the Twinkies were considered idiots for passing on Prior and taking Mauer? Some can bring up the question that Prior was on the juice, and you never know. But he had such good mechanics and those massive legs, I don't see how he wouldn't be a good pitcher without the juice anyway. If he was to be released, I would not mind and have him in AAA, the guys has potential, no doubt about it.

Good article... I am really getting excited by Day, and I really wanna see that slider of his. We have a few good future arms for the pen: Day, Perez, Logan, and a couple others. We are stacked with pitching right now... it seems like we went from having one of the worst pitching farms to one of the best. And I really think Gio will make everyone forget about Garcia in a couple of years.

Morneu currently... he thinks he is so badass, but he's not!