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Not Lopez Needs to go down. In line for W vs. lowly KC but must start somewhere.

My comment made out of frustration was off-base, for sure. Thanks for the information.

Training staff? Herm Schneider was a sacred cow, immune to criticism. But he retired after injuries piled up last year throughout the operation. What's up with Head Athletic Trainer Brian Ball?

White Sox are THE place for useless veterans on the position player side.

Listening to WSCR, they said something like Sox have averaged only 3.3 runs per game during Giolito's streak. If Abreu traded, there goes any chance for 2019 Cy Young Award. Then looking past 2019, my fear is that Kenny ensures Giolito's White Sox career will be wasted similar to Chis Sale's.

Alonso 2019 Contract Status: Signed thru 2019, 2 yrs/$16M (18-19) & 20 team option. Is Alonso making too much to be benched? Is it up to Renteria? Seems like much of blame on this board is directed at RR. But if FO won't expel Alonso, what choice does RR have? Bench him and incur the wrath of FO? I think RR has little to gain by standing up to his bosses in a tank year. Plus, whomever else he plugs in is probably not much better, anyway.

FO wasted much of Sale's career (and Quintana's). The offense has been in a ten-year slump.

Yep, Jermaine Dye was one of the best ever FA acquisitions in Chicago sports.

My money is on Kenny, mainly for attendance woes, 19 years of incompetent scouting and drafting, organizational mismanagement, and he seems content with it. They should hand the reins over to Hahn and promote Kenny to a team ambassador.

Number of pitches for all of a player's plate appearances NP is tracked, as is number of plate appearances PA, but I found no AvgNPPA stat. I calculated a few: McCann is at 4.23, and Moncada and Abreu are above 3.9. One of the worst on team is Anderson's 3.36 (I still don't think he'll ever be a consistent hitter).

I agree to a point; they can go 83-79 but it must be 83-79 with young stars-on-the-rise, not like that mostly veteran 2012 team that somehow won 88 games. Then, the sports talk media bashed Sox fans all year: Why weren't Sox drawing 30,000 every night? They're in first place! But to fans it was obvious; who could get excited about Adam Dunn and a .204 batting average? The Sox played Kenny Ball down the stretch -- just as they were designed to do -- and it was the first season since 2004 (and first of now seven straight seasons and counting) that they failed to draw 2 million fans. Even worse: In Kenny's Decade of Darkness, the clock had not yet struck midnight.

This might be asking for too much, but one of my all time favorite White Sox at 2B, Ray Durham, was no superstar either but he could hit.

Man, that's just a rephrasing of "All In." No Thanks!

I don't currently view White Sox as potential destination for top-of-line free agents. Too many empty seats. And fan base is not going to get amped up by big-time FA signing (remember Albert Belle), especially with inept front office unable to produce home-grown stars. Need a new "Kids Can Play" era with these prospects to get the fans excited before White Sox will be taken seriously in FA market.

If Robert is the only good OF prospect then my optimism meter is plunging.

Vent!

I don't know why this front-office Kenny should be given a pass. The past decade also happened and the Executive VP of Baseball Futility is still around. The only thing the print media reports about him is he and his wife -- "one of Chicago's true power couples" (gag) -- sold their townhouse. References to him in electronic media attempt to legitimize him. This forum is a great outlet for a frustrated fan base. I appreciate the optimistic posts but I say keep up the front-office-bashing (I do my best to contribute). The negativity is harder to process but it serves a purpose. Something along the lines of those who don't know history are bound to repeat it.

I will have to look up what is BABIP. Balls in play average?

OK, but looking at offense -- Sox need HRs and box office needs a jolt, only ones with All-Star potential on your list and on roster are Yoan, Eloy, and Anderson, and maybe McCann . All others hitters you listed are not All-Star caliber.

Before this year, I considered him a below average hitter: current lifetime OBP is .294. I still don't foresee him as that good of a hitter but I think they can win with him as their SS (and I hope he turns out to be above average hitter).

That would be around 1998-99. Ordonez had a breakout year and Carlos Lee's and Konerko's talents were obvious. Within a year, a 90+ win season and division title, even with below average starting pitching. That is not the case this time; many of those mentioned by JUSTgottaBELIEVE are still in minors.

Thanks for your comment. The lack of offensive star power since last of 2005 stars departed has suffocated the franchise. Giolito has been great, but so was Chris Sale, and he couldn't stand it after awhile, it was a lost cause with Kenny still around. Moncada, Eloy, Robert, and perhaps Anderson provide optimism, but nothing yet to get the casual fan market to take notice.

aka The Little White Engine That Tries Hard Only Moncada and Abreu are consistent. Leury is at his career ceiling. Eloy is too green to count on this year. McCann (small sample size) and Anderson (undisciplined hitter, good intangibles) are better than expected, but both question marks. Mix in remaining ingredients and stamp with the Kenny Williams Seal to guarantee another A.L. bottom-feeding offense (and bottom-feeding attendance).

Tilson is not the guy and Sox will need -- minimum -- another corner OF with HRs. Hopefully, it is someone on that list, but only an optimistic would think so, given the last decade.

Agreed.