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    Fire Rick Hahn

    in Pale Hose Talk

    Posted

    1 hour ago, Lip Man 1 said:

    My guess is that if this situation exists for radio the same parameters probably are in play for TV as well.

    Mattered when the Sox also broadcast select games on independent stations through 2019.

    All local television broadcasts since 2019  occur on Jerry Reinsdorf majority (50%) owned NBCSC (Wirtz and NBC Universal own the two remaining 25% shares).

    Fire Rick Hahn

    in Pale Hose Talk

    Posted · Edited by South Side Hit Men

    That lengthy answer covers radio, not CSN, and I already knew that Len’s radio time and DJ are considered employees of WMVP, same as when the Sox TV announcers were broadcast on WGN/WSNS/WFLD/The U (and the Cubs on WGN/WLS under Wrigley and Ricketts ownership, the Tribune also owned WGN). Teams had say/veto power, but the broadcast was owned by the television or radio station and the broadcasters were considered employees of the respective station. Bill Veeck also had "veto power" but allowed his TV/Radio announcers to call it as they saw it, which obviously Jerry Reinsdorf has never adopted.

    Len’s contract includes significant time on CSN, so he in part is also a direct employee of Reinsdorf owned CSN based on his dual contract, leaving DJ plus Connor McKnight and radio fill ins as the only persons with zero direct compensation by a Reinsdorf owned entity.

    All the others on CSN, plus Merkin (either directly or indirectly through Reinsdorf's ownership of mlb.com) and the two you mentioned WGN interviewed for their take on Tony (Hawk and Kittle) the other day, are all employees of a Jerry Reinsdorf entity.

    PS - Guys with side hustles, like Steve Stone’s WSCR appearances, appear independent of the White Sox. However, anything they say or tweet may be used against them during their next contract negotiation.

     

    That's a White Sox winner !

    in Pale Hose Talk

    Posted · Edited by South Side Hit Men

    3 hours ago, RibbieRubarb said:

    The only way there were 17,168 people at the park is if it was "Come Dressed as a Green Seat Day".

     

    23 hours ago, South Side Hit Men said:

    Nice for those among the 17,168 of the announced attendance who went to the park tonight.

    Yes, emphasis on "announced". Far more actual people last night than this afternoon, which looked to be in the 3,000-4,000 range watching on YouTube.

    The announced attendance today was 15,257, 7th lowest this year.  Lower were five April and one May weekday game vs. the Angels in 51 F weather.

    2019 Attendance 1,649,775 / 77 Dates = 21,426 per gate admittance (3 dates DHs without separate admissions, one game cancelled and not played).

    2022 Attendance 1,641,402 / 67 games = 24,499 per gate admittance (This average will likely decrease the final month / 14 games, with two home weekends remaining on the schedule). 

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    TLR out for the year

    in Pale Hose Talk

    Posted · Edited by South Side Hit Men

    39 minutes ago, Texsox said:

    So would you agree that any manager would have huge problems trying to win a division with a GM like that? 

    Hahn has been, and continues to be the primary problem because he is not a capable leader, cannot properly evaluate talent, and has few strengths which align with his role. 

    Tony has exacerbated issues between his involvement in the Leury and Kelly signings, and eschewing logic, facts, proper defensive alignment and players qualified to field their positions in favor of platoon advantages (real or imagined) and his 77 year old gut. 

    A quality qualified GM should be hired and allowed to hire their choice of manager and staff, and not have Tony or Hahn hanging around as an "advisor" like Marley's / Jerry's ghost.

    Fire Rick Hahn

    in Pale Hose Talk

    Posted

    5 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said:

    Completely agree. I know he's close with Merkin since both went to Michigan and you'll never read about Scott asking him any tough questions. DVS of the Sun-Times and Sullivan from the Tribune have been pretty forthcoming though with stories and columns not avoiding the issues with this team/organization.

    Merkin is paid like the announcers and team ambassadors directly by the team, so is a paid to give good PR for his employer.

    I’m referring to the newspaper news outlets the White Sox allows clubhouse access (Sun Times, Athletic, Tribune, Daily Herald still around?), and also radio / television outlets beyond the Sox owned cable network.

    Fire Rick Hahn

    in Pale Hose Talk

    Posted

    1 hour ago, Lip Man 1 said:

    According to DVS of the Sun-Times Hahn is supposed to speak with the media before the game tomorrow if TLR's test results are back.

    Should be a hoot!

    Will he be asked any serious questions about the Sox abysmal August performance, the overall  2022 failures, why players learned of the Tony’s departure via Twitter instead of him or Jerry, and whether he thinks his performance and conduct makes him worthy of remaining with the organization beyond October 5, 2022?

    Or will it be the typical Hahn q & a where he opens whining about how tired and hangry he is, gives a few injury updates, followed by perhaps one or two softball questions before the press led by Bruce Levine and Shane Riordan kiss his pinky ring and then clear a path for his exit by tossing hundreds of roses to the ground and bowing as he leaves to throw remote controls and punch file cabinets in his office or North Shore home?

    Matt Nagy is the only Chicago sports figure I’ve seen the Chicago media go after in press conferences, outside of a couple Tony postgame questions. It’s long overdue for the Sox media hold Rick Hahn accountable.

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    9/2 GT: Sox v. Twinkies 710CT - A new leaf turned?

    in 2022 Season in Review

    Posted

    59 minutes ago, soxfan49 said:

    You may have gotten your wish

     

    People keep saying “you can’t sell Eloy “low””. Well guess what, he will always be “low”, get a #4 or #5 pitcher, or someone who can actually play RF, 2B, LF or C, and I would be forever grateful.

    55 minutes ago, Quin said:

    I think I'm on the "if we can trick a team into giving up quality for Eloy, he's the one to go" train.

    Kim Ng wanted him last offseason. She still has excess SP. Get something while you still can.

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    9/2 GT: Sox v. Twinkies 710CT - A new leaf turned?

    in 2022 Season in Review

    Posted

    42 minutes ago, Bossanoveralls said:

    Day off with pay.

    Fresh squoze lemonade very lightly sweetened with honey. Very tangy.

    Pitcher of unsweetened sun tea.

    Arnold Palmers and White Sox baseball.

    Oh for the Swedish Bikini Team.

    😎

    I opted for a WCIPA collaboration between Alesmith out of San Diego and Revision out of Reno, poured into a Harry Caray memorial pint glass.

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    Fire Rick Hahn

    in Pale Hose Talk

    Posted

    4 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

    Still waiting on those parades Rick…

     

    I want to see a parade of the entire White Sox Front Office and Clubhouse Staff leaving the building on October 6th, with Rick Hahn serving as the Grand Marshall.

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    TLR out for the year

    in Pale Hose Talk

    Posted

    16 minutes ago, mmmmmbeeer said:

    Harrison wasn't an awful choice for 2B in that he's a solid defender.  Not a great stick but, given the lineup we thought we had, we could absorb a bit less production from 2B.

    Pollock for RF was not a bad pickup, at all.  Not a lefty but his L/R splits were pretty even.  Solid, professional hitter with good pop.  Bit of a health risk but filled a need.

    Kelly has been a disaster but, as the 6th-7th inning guy, he was not a bad gamble to sign..

    Josh Harrison’s last solid season was in 2017.

    Pollock is 34, has a bad arm, and played less than a dozen games in RF. What woukd make Rick Hahn think it was a position he could play?

    Kelly’s contract stated he couldn’t pitch in consecutive games over the first three months of the season. What other GM would take on that “gamble”, let alone for a second season at $2M more?

    This wasn’t supposed to be a tanking team trying to fill out three key positions with mid 30s guys on their final contracts.

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    TLR out for the year

    in Pale Hose Talk

    Posted

    33 minutes ago, The Kids Can Play said:

    There is no worry there! Cairo has zero chance of being the permanent manager if TLR steps down, other than the interim manager position to finish the season. He is strictly here because of Tony. I am quite sure Hahn has no intention of hiring him either. There is no way Hahn would give the job to Cairo without a full blown manager search. Plus, with all the massive criticism Jerry took hiring Tony, I am also quite sure Jerry will completely stay out of the next Sox manager hire and let Hahn make the decision. Although I would pray Jerry would also dump Hahn and let some new outside executive from a winning organization come in to make that next manager decision.

    The only worry is if Jerry would be dumb enough to put TLR in some executive position in the front office. However having said that, if indeed Tony's health is a major problem, then doing a FO job would be stressful as well, so hopefully TLR would just move on and retire.

    Hahn is not qualified to make managerial decisions, even for an organization as pathetic as the White Sox. He needs to be fired immediately, if not sooner.

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