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23 minutes ago, Capn12 said:
What.A.Fkin.Lineup.
Woof
AJ Pollock needs 11 more plate appearances to vest another $1M from the 2023 White Sox. He needs to be DFA'd to stop the 2023 bleeding.
I don't care if they have to find someone on Lower Wacker Drive, a senior citizen bocce ball court in Elmwood Park, or must activate Darryl Boston as his replacement, but he needs to be gone this weekend before La Russa costs the team another $1M-$3M in 2023 payroll before Game 162.
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On 8/26/2022 at 1:26 PM, Lip Man 1 said:
Given how injury prone he seems to be having been on the IL every season, some years multiple times, I don't know if this is a good idea. It means a shorter off season for him and added risk all for an exhibition series that has no meaning in the long run in my opinion.
https://www.mlb.com/whitesox/news/tim-anderson-commits-to-team-usa-for-2023-world-baseball-classic
Is there anyone on the Sox, with perhaps the possible exception of Jose Abreu, you don't consider "injury prone"?
Tim Anderson is 63rd across The MLB in games played since the start of the 2016 season, and he was promoted over two months in on June 10th at age 23. Same with Bummer, far and away the Sox pitcher appearance leader and 13th among his piers, 28 year old pitchers.
Tim Anderson has played in 83% of White Sox games played since being called up as a young 23 year old player. There are 17 players across all of MLB in his peer group (under 30) who have appeared in more games during this period (OD 2016 through today).
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1 hour ago, pcq said:
I was thinking Paul Simon
There must be fifty ways to lose a ballgame.
Thinking this song:
I don’t know a soul who’s not been battered
I don’t have a friend who feels at ease
I don’t know a dream that’s not been shattered
Or driven to its knees
Oh, but it’s all right, it’s all right
For lived so well so long
Still, when I think of the road
We’re traveling on
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5 minutes ago, bighurt574 said:
Moncada and Robert also received substantial signing bonuses long before their extensions, so if that kind of money was enough to take away their motivation, it sort of already happened long before they even hit the majors.
Of the core, Moncada gets the most grief here, but Eloy is the one major disaster, and he should have been traded to Miami who was interested along with Yermin for SP.
White Sox Positional Rankings by fWAR Across MLB by Position (2019-2022):
- 4th Relief Pitchers
- 8th Starting Pitchers
- 7th Shortstop
- 11th First Baseman
- 11th Center Field
- 12th Third Baseman
- 14th Catcher
- 27th Left Field (Hi Mom!)
- 28th Right Field
- 29th Second Baseman
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I try to take the long view, and to me the primary mistake was allowing the Front Office to continue after 2015 or 2016. The primary failure is not this or that player or even Tony, but the abject failure to take the opportunity to take a modern baseball approach at rebuilding the organization from top to bottom several years ago..
The key failure to date has been the inability to draft, develop and play 12-15 solid younger pre-arb / arb 1 players around the core half dozen acquired through the tanking trades and a couple of veterans. If Ricky or Tony had the core, an additional core of internally acquired and developed players, and a few top FAs at their disposal, this would have been a legitimate World Series contender. The Sox wouldn't have had to rely on mid 30s guys in declining health and performance to carry the load.
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2 hours ago, bmags said:
I think their M.O. is they like to be very arrogant about how they don't go too hard in one trend where the art of what they are moving from may be "lost". But to me they end up getting the worst of both worlds. Don't get first mover advantage, move far enough to new things to not get the benefit of a hedge.
But I've also written this before, what you saw in 2015-19 to me was just complete capitulation that old school orgs lost. Massive overhauling in virtually every org to catch up. Hahn gets credit for not deciding to be a completely backwards org, but every org "modernized" in the last 5-8 years. He doesn't get extra credit.
Shelley Duncan head of analytics.
Menechino implementing Hahn’s vision.
No clue on evaluating trade / free agent talent.
No clue on developing players.
No clue on defensive positioning.
This club is still near or at 30th in The MLB at “modernization”.
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18 minutes ago, wegner said:
Instead of chanting "Fire Tony", I think each individual in the crowd should shout out random sayings....it would be just like a LaRussa post game presser.
“Hey Tony, put your teeth back in.”
“Mr. La Russa, step out of the vehicle, and put your hands behind your back.”
“Hey Tony, you pooped your pants again.”
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13 minutes ago, ScooterMcGuire said:
I wouldn't be surprised if the international guys that are in the Sox system currently told them all not to come here because management doesn't know how to run a baseball team.
Nobody wants to be Jerry Reinsdorf’s slave.
Beisbol de los Medias Blancas
Ome de la conexion Cubana
RIP 2014-2022
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43 minutes ago, flavum said:
Imagine Andrus turning 34 on a plane home from Baltimore with these losers.
Happy birthday, Elvis!
Hope Alek Thomas has a good weekend.
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Fuck off, Stone Pony.
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3 hours ago, Texsox said:
In other recovering from groin issue news Nick Madrigal, after a few months on the IR, is hitting a lot of singles and walking.
Why pay Madrigal the league minimum, when you can spend $11M on Leury and Big Energy, over $20M on Kimbrel before flipping him to spend over $20M and counting on Pollock?
Hahn’s roster construction and payroll management is certainly the Eighth Wonder of the World.
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2 hours ago, caulfield12 said:
https://www.si.com/mlb/guardians/opinion/cleveland-guardians-are-in-good-company-in-modern-mlb-era
Guardians also the youngest team in baseball…pretty sure KC was also #3 or #4 in that category. Key match up with Seattle continues this weekend.How are they winning without a $95M 7th-9th inning bullpen?
- Hendriks $54M
- Graveman $24M
- Kelly $17M
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48 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:
This team with 1 notable change in the rotation is quite similar to last year’s staff. They also spend an extra what, $20 million on the bullpen? In the process they’ve gone from 5th in ERA to 19th. That’s a pretty serious underperform.
Yes, but what about Rodon’s regressing health and performance?
If only Sox Fans had Pink on the White Sox beat, Hahn may have been asked tough questions for the first time in ten years.
QuoteWhat about us?
What about all the times you said you had the answers?
What about us?
What about all the broken happy ever afters?
What about us?
What about all the plans that ended in disaster?
What about love? What about trust?
What about us?What do we get instead of Pink? That’s scumbag liar at the Score fluffing Rick over bourbon.
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Had Season tickets at the old (weekend 27 games 1985) and new ballpark (Full Season 2006-2007), and every home playoff game in 1983 and 2005. Been to many other games in the 1970s/1980s/2000s/2010s without a formal package.
Went to over a dozen games in 2019 while they were "tanking". Really enjoyed going to the park and seeing the core develop.
Would have gone to at least 20 of the 30 games in 2020 if the park was open, plus the playoffs. I also attended 2020 Spring Training before it was cancelled. Was so excited for White Sox baseball with Ricky's Boys and the exciting core.
Decided not to go to a future Sox game when they hired Tony. I expanded the boycott this year to as long as Jerry owns the team between the lockout and his policies against minor league players, and a dozen other longer standing issues.
I did not vote in the poll, since the thread starter stated it was for 2022 ST holders, but my boycott will extend into year number three in 2023.
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24 minutes ago, fathom said:
White Sox training staff.
17 minutes ago, ScooterMcGuire said:If Stone leaves due to age and just being over it, and Benetti leaves due to getting better pay with national gigs and also being over it, I want to see a broacast duo of Pierzynski as the color guy and Pods calling play by play.
Trigger warning for non Caddyshack fans
You'll get Kasper and Beckham and like it.
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Just now, fathom said:
Hahn is worse than Tony IMO
Beyond a Jerry departure, or a major health episode or death for Tony, I see both returning at least for 2023.
Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if Jerry extended Tony to avoid a lame duck 2023 season, like Hahn did with Ricky.
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On 8/24/2022 at 5:20 PM, CentralChamps21 said:
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Aaron Bummer (216) has played in more games than Luis Robert (211).
Eloy Jimenez (281) is remarkably ahead of both.
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4 minutes ago, lpneck said:
I was thinking this is the worst, most embarrassing loss since Beckham dropped the pop up in the middle of the infield in the 9th against the Mets in 2013.
But then I remembered the Sox actually came back and won that game. So we are talking pre-2013.
Tony La Russa's teams will always find another way.
So wish Benetti would leave for the final five weeks, with Hawk filling in to relay what Sox fans are feeling and to annoy and torment Steve Stone over his remaining 37 games.
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Tony La Russa still needs one win before year end to end the season with an over .500 record with the White Sox over his ten years.
White Sox:
- 4 GB for AL Central lead (Add 1/2 game since they currently lose the tiebreaker vs. Cleveland)
- 5 GB for AL #3 Wild Card (Currently ahead of Seattle 2-1 for head to head tiebreaker)
Lance Lynn deserved bone-in ribeye tonight, was served chop steak by his teammates after he left after six strong innings.
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1 minute ago, HOFHurt35 said:
They're in the middle of a division race.
I understand we shit on the fact that's truly the tallest midget race for the AL Central. But I'm sure the clubhouse doesn't see it that way and don't care about long term vs the current short term to try to win the division.
It's a fucked up situation nonetheless.
Eddie Gaedel is more valuable than a one armed hitter.
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2 minutes ago, fathom said:
Robert and Kopech are two of the most vital pieces going forward….and they just put them at even more risk
They should shut both down this year.
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Just now, Balta1701 said:
If the Braves are willing to give $16 million to Jansen, there are teams that would take Hendriks on. I just don’t envision a big time return.
Would say the Dodgers, Padres and perhaps Boston need a closer and would be willing to take on the salary. Not looking for player return, looking to dump Hahn salaries.
Would love the Dodgers taking Lynn, Grandal and Liam for a bag of balls. Grandal would be a backup, Lynn a number 5/6 for them.
Reese McGuire
in The Diamond Club
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Injury prone seems to be the latest buzzword here at Soxtalk this week. Lou Gehrig was after his ALS diagnosis.