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    Ricky is not getting fired and he is winning manager of the year

    in Pale Hose Talk

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    7 hours ago, Dominikk85 said:

    The worn out pen can't be blamed on ricky though. In the contrary ricky actually protected his best pen guys by often putting in weaker relievers in tough spots which set up the team to fail but protected the arms of the best relievers.

     

    The actual problem was the sox only have 2 starters who can go more than 5 so the pen was used a lot.

    Had Ricky run the pen like the forum wanted him to do which is basically treat every game like game 7 and never put in a bad reliever in a tough spot the pen would have already been worn out after 30 games.

    Ricky made some bad moves but I also felt he protected colome, foster and heuer which were the only reliable relievers over the season after the bummer injury reasonably well by not using them all the time.

    If the forum could have decided those 3 and bummer when available would have pitched every game but then they would have been dead by the all star break.

    If you have a season with very few off days, starters who can't go deep and really only 3-4 relievers who are good managing a pen is a tough task.

    He could have gone dusty Baker and always use the best guys but that would have killed the pen.

    Excellent post. Ricky had a bad week last week for certain, but the overall management of the bullpen beyond Jimmy Cordero worked, the bullpen overall performed above expectations.

    Matt Spiegal had a good balanced segment on hit and run on Saturday regarding Rick Renteria which mirrors my thoughts on his tenure and last week. It’s worth a listen if you are opened minded. 

    Spiegel: Should Rick Renteria be on the hot seat?

    https://www.radio.com/670thescore/podcasts/hit-run-with-matt-spiegel-59

     

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    Ricky is not getting fired and he is winning manager of the year

    in Pale Hose Talk

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    2 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

    The Marlins, White Sox and Padres all broke long playoff-less droughts.

    That basically leaves the Mariners on the outside looking in.

    Lost meaning / importance at this point with literally a team in the bottom half of MLB is now a "playoff participant", and two teams two games under .500.

    Playoffs used to signify a quality season, wild card cheapened it, 16 teams destroyed it. Now it's worse than the NHL (31 teams) and tied with the NBA (30) as the least meaningful regular season.

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    Final 2020 Chicago White Sox bWAR stats

    in Pale Hose Talk

    Posted

    Hitting - 90 ABs + (Batter, Primary Position, bWAR (Plate Appearances) - Comments

    Starting Nine:

    1. Jose Abreu 1B 2.8 (262) - Top 10 MLB Finish, LeMahieu (2.9) lone AL hitter higher.
    2. Tim Anderson SS 2.2 (221)
    3. Luis Robert CF 1.6 (227) - dWAR > oWAR 1.0 vs. 0.8
    4. Eloy Jimenez LF 1.1 (226) - Defense really hurt with a -0.6 dWAR
    5. Yasmani Grandal C 0.6 (194) - Doubled after final game (0.3).
    6. Yoan Moncada 3B 0.5 (231) - Hopefully he will regain full health next season, looked good to close the season.
    7. Nick Madrigal 2B 0.4 (109) - 7th best OPS among starters / key reserves, nice rookie year but needs improvement in baserunning and added gap power.
    8. Nomar Mazara RF -0.3 (149) - Adequate defense saved him from finishing last among the starters.
    9. Edwin Encarnacion DH -0.5 (181) - Brutal signing, would like the real story as to whether Hahn or Ricky continued to want him in the lineup after Labor Day.

    Bench

    1. James McCann 1.2 (111) - 50 more ABs at C or DH would have been prudent.
    2. Danny Mendick 0.6 (114) - Adequate fill in / reserve.
    3. Adam Engel 0.5 (93) - 50 more ABs at RF / LF would have been prudent.

    Pitching:  (IP) WAR 

    Starters

    1. Dallas Keuchel (63) 2.0 - Great first season with the Sox.
    2. Lucas Giolito (72) 0.8 - Nice season, flashes of brilliance. Key rotation piece.
    3. Dane Dunning (34) 0.1 - Nice exposure for the rookie, may need more seasoning in the minors to build on his success.
    4. Dylan Cease (58) 0.1 - Took the ball each time with mixed results, needs to gain command of his pitches to gain the next step. Biggest ??? coming into next season.
    5. Carlos Rodon (8) -0.4 - Should be joining Carson Fulmer as a former White Sox first rounder this offseason, unless he agrees to return as low $ / incentive laden contract.
    6. Reynaldo Lopez (26) -0.6 - Not sure he will ever be able adequately perform at the ML level.

    Relievers

    1. Alex Colome (22) 1.0 - Great season for future free agent, hope he returns.
    2. Codi Heuer (24) 0.8 - Excellent unexpected season for the 2018 6th rounder.
    3. Matt Foster (29) 0.7 - Excellent unexpected season for the 2016 20th rounder.
    4. Evan Marshall (23) 0.6 - Another solid season, hope he is on for the playoffs. 
    5. Aaron Bummer (9) 0.3 - Injury major blow, though allowed Heuer and Foster to gain valuable exposure and experience.
    6. Garrett Crochet (6) 0.3 - High impact for a mere 3 innings, hope he can transition to a starter by 2022.
    7. Jace Fry (20) 0.1 - Adequate middle reliever.
    8. Gio Gonzalez (32) -0.3 - Likely the end of the road with the White Sox.
    9. Jimmy "Everyday" Cordero (27) -0.8 - WAR crushed on the final day, possibly his last as a Chicago White Sox.

    My final grades are B+ for the starting nine, B+ for the bench, B for the starting pitching and A for the bullpen, the sum of which is B+ for the entire class.

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    Which postseason opponent would you prefer?

    in Pale Hose Talk

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    I don't recall seeing this mentioned here, but I like the fact the White Sox will avoid Tampa, New York and Cleveland until the ALCS, due to the fact there is no reseeding. It's a tournament style bracket this season.

    Tampa has a hard second round match-up guaranteed, and the Dodgers have no picnic with San Diego looming. The Cubs' pod is the worst of the four.

     

     

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    Wasted Money This Year

    in Pale Hose Talk

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    Original Contract Value (no COVID adjustment)

    Complete waste:

    • Edwin Encarnacion $12.0M
    • Kelvin Herrera $8.5M + $1.0M
    • Nomar Mazara $5.6M
    • Steve Cishek $5.3M + $0.7M
    • Carlos Rodon $4.5M
    • Nicky Delmonico $0.6M

    Paid more than added value:

    • Yasmani Grandal $18.3M
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    9/27 GT: Cubs @ Sox (2:10pm)

    in 2020 Season in Review

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    3 minutes ago, joesaiditstrue said:

    can we all agree that regardless of whether the sox win any games in the playoffs or not, if EE is in the lineup over McCann then that means Renteria really doesn't give a shit about putting his team in the best possible position to win games? 

    Not sure if he has say over Encarnacion's playing time. Hahn is his boss, Hahn gave him Grandal, Parrot and Mazara to play, and they are playing.

    9/27 GT: Cubs @ Sox (2:10pm)

    in 2020 Season in Review

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    2 minutes ago, soxfan49 said:

    I've really kind of had it with Grandal. I've tried to let the season play out and I've tried to see the best in these guys considering the weird season, but besides getting pitchers 2-3 extra strikes a game and seeing 4-5 pitches per PA, what does he do well? He's an incredibly aggravating player

    As bad as Parrot and Mazara has played, the Grandal signing is the most damaging, in terms of continued declining production and contract albatross vs. the budget.

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