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Thats what I think will change this offseason now that those teams won't be as willing to over pay for certain pitchers like Denny Neagle's and such. As far as KW and Jr go, I think they get along great and will as long as KW is doing his job and doing thinks alright in JR's book.

I thought Crede decided not to play winter ball. Harris should definately be playing it and I feel the same way about Olivo, but I don't know if I want him doing that much catching. No reason to hurt his knees.

Well, I know their is something called Malto Meal, but I don't think his name has anything to do with that. I think he told me once, I just don't remember.

It could be, but look at the Cubs and all the injuries they've had. Then take a look at other systems and you'll see tons of pitchers getting hurt.

SN's 2002 Minor League All Star Team By: Jason Gage The 2002 minor league baseball season came to an end just weeks ago with the Birmingham Baron's the only team to make the playoffs, and have a successful season, as they won the Southern League Championship. Now, it is time to take a look at the different players in the organization, and rank the two best at each position this year. To go along with position players there are the 5 best starting pitchers, and the 5 best relievers. Here is your 2002 White Sox minor league all star team: CATCHER Starter: Miguel Olivo (Birmingham) Stats: .306 avg, 6 hr's, 49 rbi's, 51 runs, 29 steals Backup: Shane Scoville(Phoenix) Stats: .278 avg, 1 hr's, 13 rbi's, 16 runs FIRST BASE Starter: Ryan Hankins (Birmingham) Stats: .280 avg, 7 hr's, 72 rbi's, 51 runs Backup: Casey Rogowski (Winston Salem) Stats: .255 avg, 3 hr's, 23 rbi's, 27 runs, 16 steals SECOND BASE Starter: Aaron Miles (Birmingham) Stats: .322 avg, 9 hr's, 68 rbi's, 67 runs Backup: Willie Harris (Charlotte) Stats: .283 avg, 5 hr's, 33 rbi's, 54 runs, 32 steals Runner Up: Edwin Yan (Winston Salem) Stats: .253 avg, 4 hr's, 35 rbi's, 78 runs, 88 steals SHORTSTOP Starter: Guillermo Reyes (Winston Salem) Stats: .279 avg, 4 hr's, 49 rbi's, 51 runs Backup: Tim Hummel (Charlotte) Stats: .260 avg, 4 hr's, 41 rbi's, 55 runs Runner Up: Pedro Lopez (Bristol) Stats: .319 avg, 0 hr's, 35 rbi's, 42 runs, 22 steals THIRD BASE Starter: Joe Crede (Charlotte) Stats: .312 avg, 24 hr's, 65 rbi's, 57 runs Backup: Micah Schnurstein (Phoenix) Stats: .332 avg, 3 hr's, 48 rbi's, 28 runs Runner Up: Edgar Vallera (Bristol) Stats: .330 avg, 8 hr's, 40 rbi's, 30 runs LEFT FIELD Starter: Julio Reyes (Kannapolis) Stats: .287 avg, 7 hr's, 24 rbi's, 25 runs Runner Up: Bjorn Ivy (Bristol) Stats: .272 avg, 1 hr's, 14 rbi's, 37 runs, 15 steals CENTER FIELD Starter: Joe Borchard (Charlotte) Stats: .272 avg, 20 hr's, 59 rbi's, 62 runs Backup: Jeremy Reed (Kannapolis) Stats: .319 avg, 4 hr's, 31 rbi's, 37 runs, 17 steals Runner Up: Anthony Webster (Bristol) Stats: .352 avg, 1 hr's, 30 rbi's, 58 runs, 16 steals RIGHT FIELD Starter: Darren Ciraco (Bristol) Stats: .329 avg, 10 hr's, 51 rbi's, 47 runs, 27 walks, 39 k's Backup: Brooks Kieshcnick (Charlotte) Stats: .275 avg, 13 hr's, 40 rbi's, 32 runs STARTING PITCHERS Kris Honel (Kannapolis) Stats: 9-8, 2.82 era, 153.1 inn, 152 k's Heath Phillips (Winston Salem) Stats: 6-16, 3.52 era, 179 inn, 5 cg's, 3 shutouts Josh Stewart (Birmingham) Stats: 11-7, 3.53 era, 150.1 inn Nik Lubisich (Kannapolis) Stats: 9-3, 2.71 era, 122.2 inn Ryan Wing (Kannapolis) Stats: 12-7, 3.78 era, 123.2 inn, 109 k's BULLPEN Joe Valentine (Birmingham) Stats: 4-1, 1.97 era, 36 saves, 55 games Edwin Almonte (Charlotte) Stats: 2-3, 2.24 era, 26 saves, 50 games David Sanders (Birmingham) Stats: 3-1, 1.84 era, 0 saves, 47 games Gary Majewski (Birmingham) Stats: 5-3, 2.65 era, 3 saves, 57 games Arnaldo Munoz (Birmingham) Stats: 6-0, 2.61 era, 6 saves, 51 games

Your off to more then a decent start. The only autographed jersey I had at 17 was a Cade Mcnown jersey and we all know how that went. I just loved him at UCLA and thought he would be so great for the Bears. Now I'm 19 and my cherised autograph is probably my Albert Belle autograph or my Paul Konerko one. The Belle one was great cause he was such a nice guy and the person before he cussed out and wouldn't sign a ball because he wanted a Cleveland Indians card signed. I ended up talking to him for like 5 minutes and he was such a cool guy.

Let me take this back, I actually won because Warner ended up being so bad, lol. Yes, 1-2 I beat the other 0-2 team in my division. I did it with 3 guys missing action due to the buy and my running backs combining for negative points.

Warner has a terrible arm, holds onto the ball too long, and forces passes. The thing is, both my fantasy teams are now 0-3, lol, just like the Rams.

That was a sweet catch. He had another awesome catch earlier in the game. Stinkin Wanstedt has them playing damn good football. Them, the Pats, and the Saints are playing awesome. I'd have the Bears there but they don't deserve it. We have a weak secondary and have given up way too many rushing yardage.

I just have plenty of auto's of the Sox that I got when I go to spring training. I have a blast there every year and I can't wait to be back in Arizona again this spring.

I thought last nights was pretty good. I have watched it off and on and times and only started watching it last season. Still, I like the show. What got me into it was watching Band of Brothers and it was on after it or before it, I forget which it was.

I loved this game. I called that pick at the end and one a buck off my uncle. Who would of thought, Rams 0-3, Panthers 3-0.

I think we simply need to figure that its part of the game. Pitchers get hurt and it tends to happen during relatively quick spells and you tend to blame things. Odds are their deliveries weren't effective or things like that.

Lol Michelle

The one thing Kw will have to do different next season is let his manager manage. He should have some input on the ideas, but in the end it should be the managers call. Of course, I don't want to see him trade any of our top players unless we are getting a true superstar.

I like Harris's speed, defense, base stealing and bunting capabilities, but he strikes out a lot(Needs to shorten his swing) and isn't a line drive hitter. He's starting to look like Durham 2, but not as good.

What i did is name this Pale Hose talk II, that way if they restore the other board, then I'll move all of these posts over to that board and we won't lose anything.

Kw was in charge. Ya, Ron did take some shots at KW, but i don't think any of us will ever know the true story.

I was wondering the same thing Mike.

I don't kid with things like this. What I want to do Mario, is walk you through everything and then get everything so you understand it, I understand it and Mark understands it, cause right now I don't even know what the heck I'm doing, lol.

He definately wasn't a Royce Clayton. He worked his butt of and never complained. It ended up being a fault, but I have a lot of respect for him.

The only bad trades I can think of were the Clayton one and the Ritchie one. In the case of the Ritchie one it may turn out that it was a Schueler deal or at least a heavily pushed Schueler deal. Of course KW still deserves the fall for that cause he is the gm and invitably the final say is with him.

94 mph fastball, good slider, good curve, solid change. You can't possibly pitch as bad as he did with all that kind of stuff. This year he gave up on two of his pitches, and hung damn near every slider he threw because he was always having a different release point and that tended to cause him to roll so many pitches.

Now that I think about it, Didn't I listen to that show?

Alright, once we get a big enough list then I'll make the changes, but I'm going to hesitate to do so until I find out whether the other stuff can be recovered or not.