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QUOTE (WCSox @ Sep 5, 2008 -> 07:18 PM) I heard some of it and Obama handled himself pretty well. He danced around certain questions and didn't give very good answers when pressed, but he was pretty solid overall. And I think that O'Reilly treated him pretty fairly (from what I've heard so far). Some of the left-wingers might want to listen to the interview, as it shows that O'Reilly isn't the Rush- or Hannity-like partisan goon that liberal America portrays him to be. That's a pretty accurate description of the little I saw. I think O'Reilly is a far more "fair" interviewer than Rush or Hannity. But Bill comes off as very far right most of the time.

I finally found the station by station breakdown: Station... Obama... McCain CNN.......... 8............4.8 ABC.......... 6.6......... 6.0 NBC.......... 6.1..........8.7 CBS.......... 4.6..........5.3 FoxNews... 4.2...........9.1 MSNBC..... 4.1...........2.5 Among cable... that's a tectonic shift to Fox News. My completely baseless opinion is that maybe... just maybe... McCain's speech was much more "republican" viewer intensive while Obama's hit a more wide rang of people. But with 35+ million people, that's a wide throw. So, it'll have its impact on the polls. Or it could just be viewers headed to their home turf.

QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ Sep 5, 2008 -> 07:08 PM) no, these numbers: Take the original asking price of Obamas new house, subtract what he paid for it. Then take that number and add it to the difference in the amount per square foot that Tony Rezco paid for the adjacent lot and how much he sold the strip of land to Obama for. Take the sum of those two numbers and compare it to the amounts of money that other politicians bribed Rezco with in order to have "business associates" placed on numerous boards and receive other random favors done. I'm not even dignifying that with a response. Come up with legit numbers and we'll talk. I'm trying to be nice here.

QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ Sep 5, 2008 -> 08:02 PM) Are you going to crunch those numbers for me? I think the people would like those numbers more than if the reason why so many people watched McCains speech was because of the NFL. I'd be curious to see the online numbers. I havent seen them.

In my defense, you dont see me ripping on Palin's numbers. To my knowledge that was a legit 37 million.

QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ Sep 5, 2008 -> 06:49 PM) Ya, and congress being taken over by the dems in 06 has really done a lot to help. I didnt realize how much BETTER things have gotten since the switch. Apparently congress has nothing to do with the economy. you cant do s*** in congress if you have a small majority and an opposing president who wont compromise. You can get through legislation, but if Bush vetos, and you dont have 2/3 willing to override, it's dead. They've tried.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 5, 2008 -> 06:56 PM) I still wonder how they counted internet numbers. relatively speaking, internet numbers are WAY easier to gather and much more accurate than TV boxes and pencil and paper diaries.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 5, 2008 -> 06:49 PM) I'll admit it...I'm shocked more people watched McCain's speech than Obama's. and if he did, good for him. I hold no ill will.

QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ Sep 5, 2008 -> 06:45 PM) Does the inner geek in you only like doing math when it belittles the accomplishments of the GOP? If you have math that might be pertinent to Obama, i'd be glad to work the numbers over. PS: Dont ask me to crunch tax numbers and such. Too many variables.

QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ Sep 5, 2008 -> 06:41 PM) lol, you took the time to try and prove that the reason McCains speech had so many viewers was because they just left the tv on after the NFL game. Is there one thing that he or Palin does that you wont waste your time trying to belittle? I did it because I love doing statistical analysis type stuff. It's the inner math-geek in me. On election day, you'll see me tearing apart exit polls.

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Sep 5, 2008 -> 06:32 PM) You can't even give McCain the benefit of a higher TV rating, which means absolutely nothing. Talking about spillovers and counting TV's which may have been turned off, haha. What's funny is after I read the original comments detailing the Neilsen ratings I knew someone, probably you, would find a fault in the ratings system. I was thinking more along the lines of "(insert poll) suggests more Democrats tuned into the speech than Republicans did for Obama." You've become the political equivalent of the frat-boy Cubs fan on this board. At times, very annoying. If McCain wins the election I'm going to have a fun time reading your responses. It never actually crossed my mind until i accidentally stumbled upon that webpage about 15 minute ago. Then it peeked my curiosity.

QUOTE (WCSox @ Sep 5, 2008 -> 06:32 PM) The same source(s) that reported also reported that Guiliani experienced the same problem. I don't see their motive for propping him up. that's a fair point. If it happened to both, that's a bad teleprompter operator.

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Sep 5, 2008 -> 06:26 PM) Would it just kill you if for once your god didn't end up on top? chill out. SOmething in the numbers didnt seem right, s I took a closer look. That's all.

I've never seen a play like that before. Not that far up the line.

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Sep 5, 2008 -> 07:21 PM) The official word was that they didn't stop it long enough several times during the applause and that by the time she was able to speak again, the first sentance or two were already gone. or that could be spin to make it sound like she did something special that validates her as a great speech giver. Not trying to belittle her, just saying that's what people do in politics. Make people look better than they are.

QUOTE (DABearSoX @ Sep 5, 2008 -> 02:58 PM) http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080905/pl_nm/...yof_aql6Lhh24cA WOW...I didn't think overcoming Obama's total was possible...I thought Palin was going to come closer... Ok, so that even caught me a little off guard. So, I got to thinking... He drew a lot, probably over 35 million, but more than Obama? Probably not and here's why: Let me try and break this down a little. Ratings are typically done in "chunks". Radio does it in 3-4 hour frames, but TV obviously does it by hour or half hour. So, the "bleed" from football might have been a few minutes, but it technically fell into the 9PM CDT time slot. So, even if all of them turned off their TV, they factor in. I dont know the specifics, but I bet a million or two were statistical anomalies rather than actual views. To back that up, 4.6 watched Obama on CBS and 6.1 on NBC. So, while CBS went up .4 million, NBC went up 1.9 million. That's a big jump for NBC compared to a competitor. Just a thought. Not trying to belittle the speech, just offering an opinion from a guy who had to study the radio ratings system while in college.

QUOTE (WCSox @ Sep 5, 2008 -> 04:18 PM) [cheesehead] Ya, you betcha! [/cheesehead] LOL! I think for me, it actually goees back to a TV show I watched as a kid... Bobby's World. It was a carton if anyone remembers it. The mom had the thick northern accent and always said "dont scha know". And now, that's all i can hear. lol

QUOTE (WCSox @ Sep 5, 2008 -> 04:12 PM) Classy post AND avatar! oh chill. I'm not saying her accent is bad. But northern accents drive me crazy. It doenst make her less of a person.

she's on CNN right now. i really want to ad a "Dont scha know" at the end of all her sentences. lol

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Sep 5, 2008 -> 04:04 PM) After McCain's speech concluded yesterday I stood and applauded in my basement for five minutes straight, only to stop to whipe tears away from my eyes. God bless you McCain! what part moved you? The POW, the POW, or the POW?

The CBS poll is a little strange and i read somewhere that they changed the weighting to more favor republicans compared to their last poll. So, it's a bit of an outliner.

:headbang

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Sep 5, 2008 -> 12:03 PM) It's probably B.S. But I'll be curious to see if any reputable news sources do anything with it. My personal stance is that his business partner is just trying to keep the media out of their private life because of the NE story and it really isnt much of anything. But interesting one the less.

I'll post this and let you say what you will, but let the dot connecting begin. 1) National Enquirer Palin Affair Rumor - Sarah Palin had an affair with her husband Todd Palin’s business partner 2) Todd Palin's former business partner files an emergency motion to have his divorce papers sealed. Just keep an eye on this.