Soxbadger

Discussing politics is always boring because 99% of people just want their opinion to be what America does, regardless of how hypocritical they are. Case in point, making abortion and drugs illegal while saying you are for small govt and states rights. Thats not small govt, thats the worst type of govt intrusion.

I dont know why but Ryan reminds me of Ted Bundy.

Well those numbers arent what I saw go down tonight, and they arent very close, that is a solid Ryan win.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Oct 11, 2012 -> 10:48 AM) Im feeling a reverse of Obama/Romney. Biden sticks to nonsense talking points, Ryan tries to be analytical, end result people think Biden won. For the record Id like to say that this whole process is overwhelmingly boring.

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Oct 11, 2012 -> 10:07 PM) you would think that is the kind of thing people wouldn't be changing their mind about every 5 years. but apparently they do. When I looked at the stats I couldnt even believe it and tried to figure out a reasoning. But the questions seemed to be the same, so its odd as hell.

QUOTE (Cknolls @ Oct 11, 2012 -> 09:57 PM) You keep parroting this abortion issue. The majority of this country is pro life. If thats true than Republicans will win according to my theory. I have no clue, I would hope most Americans would not want govt intervention based on religious morals, but Ive been wrong before. (edit) here are stats http://www.gallup.com/poll/154838/pro-choi...record-low.aspx As you can see it fluctuates, so who knows.

It really doesnt matter. Economics and Foreign Policy will be a split, I think this election comes to social issues and I doubt Ryan was persuasive enough to convince people to ban abortion. I dont think people understand the consequence of that. Imagine millions of more mouths to feed, who is going to pay?

That would be a great job I have to admit.

Well I dont think under any circumstances hardcore Republicans would say Biden won, so a draw was best case scenario.

the problem for independent voters is that Ryan is so strict on abortion, that just is a killer.

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Oct 11, 2012 -> 09:39 PM) it was weird, Biden started off ranting and raving, then ran out of gas. like he had a rage hangover. Old man yells at cloud.

QUOTE (kev211 @ Oct 11, 2012 -> 09:35 PM) I think that's fine. Biden referred to Ryan as his friend the entire time. Friends can call each other by their first names. Also it would be Vice President Biden and not senator Haha yah my bad And friend is different, people use that all the time. Id have no problem if Ryan used friend. Anyway I was just saying his "thanking biden" wasnt exactly classy.

QUOTE (Cknolls @ Oct 11, 2012 -> 09:34 PM) Is Ryan a congressman or my good friend? Get me a f***ingbbreak. It would pain Biden to acknowledge Ryan debating him right? You can call someone a friend,colleague etc. But if you use a first name, its a complete slight. Its really looked down upon.

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Oct 11, 2012 -> 09:31 PM) i honestly don't know how to call this debate. it was very unusual. Ryan sounds like a qvc salesman, I predict he comes off as not trustworthy.

QUOTE (Cknolls @ Oct 11, 2012 -> 09:31 PM) Classy Ryan actually thanking classless Biden for the debate. He called him Joe, thats pretty disrespectful. I believe he is Senator Biden.

Uhoh Biden is rolling, germany is about to bomb pearl harbor

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Oct 11, 2012 -> 09:20 PM) that's a good analogy for Biden's debate technique. it does remind me of an angry internet debater when he knows he's losing. Ryan is terrible. Hes Obama, Biden is Romney. Hes got the smooth sweet delivery and makes nonsensical ra ra points. But thats a win now, so Biden is winning.

Haha now Biden is just blackmailing voters, if you love sex vote Obama.

Biden refuses to force his ideas silly Ryan, you just got internet debated.

You asked why I was smarmy about this issue and I answered. I have no problem debating legitimate issues on the matter. And Id bet the opposite. I live in Chicago and as an anecdote I do not know 1 person who wants less restrictions, everyone I know wants more restrictions. If the majority of Chicago disagrees, they should vote Alderman, Mayors, etc who run on "less gun restrictions." But there is a reason why no one is running on that platform, and its not because they are sabotaging their own chances. I dont care if Illinois is the lone hold out, just because everyone else is doing it, doesnt mean I necessarily am. For example: http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20121010/news/710109592/ But this is the way that govt is supposed to work. You have 2 candidates, 1 for C&C and 1 against, you can vote for either. If you want C&C vote for Fee, maybe eventually that will become the majority in Illinois. But right now it does not seem to be. And no matter how many times you call something stupid, it doesnt make it true. Perhaps one day you will recognize that reasonable people can have reasonable differences, and that just because someone disagrees with you, doesnt mean they are stupid.

Im considering benching RGIII for Andy Dalton this week. Hard to take the risk that RGIII doesnt play if you have a decent back up.

This is blowing up haha. I think the best part are his alleged quotes from July: http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/bre...0,4209465.story So under Obama his company has been the most profitable, yet Obama is hurting him. You dont have to be smart to be rich, but it never hurts to be a shyster.

The reason Im smarmy is because Im so sick of the gun argument. I dont care about guns, have them dont have them, it really isnt going to change my life. I just get annoyed with the hypocritical stances that many pro-gun people have, whether it be small govt, anti-drug, it just annoys me. Right or wrong, Chicago citizens should have the freedom to restrict guns on the streets of Chicago.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Oct 11, 2012 -> 01:17 PM) I don't think Harry Reid would appreciate that very much. Youre either with me or against me. Its not like Senator Reid is some great friend of mine, doubt we have much in common.

Here are more nonsense arguments. Is anti-mormon really racist? I dont believe Mormon is a race, its a religion. Fun fact though, until 1976 it was against the Mormon religion to ordain a black man. So for 29 years Mitt belonged to an organization that was explicitly racist. I wish someone would pay me to do attack ads, I could really have some fun. (Either party, Im a mercenary)