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Getting Machado for just this year is about the most pointless thing they could do

QUOTE (WhiteSoxfan1986 @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 01:00 AM) I'd guess there's a better chance this is about Abreu than Machado My opinion is he found out Sox actually put an offer in

QUOTE (Tony @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 01:55 AM) For December, I'm down for some crytic twitter entertainment, haha. Hell yeah, especially with not a lot of sports on this week

QUOTE (Tony @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 01:53 AM) lol. I legit was going to say all this fan base needs is a cryptic WSD tweet and then....boom

Well there goes my night https://mobile.twitter.com/barstoolWSD/stat...107991432105991

I feel with Swarzak gone that Oh will be the next Sox closer

Cardinals is my prediction for Manny

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 07:10 PM) That takes a potential Abreu player off of the table as I have to imagine a lot of their prospects are moving in that deal. Yep I bet Flaherty is involved. Rockies still seem the best fit to me

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 05:25 PM) Hansen and Robert aren't untouchable for me but we have to be getting an absolute superstar back(especially for Alec) if we're trading them. Yelich is a very, very good player but he's not there. He's not a superstar but he's pretty damn consistent and fits into the contention window perfectly with his skill set and contract

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 05:36 PM) I’m surprised by how willing people are to trade Cease. I personally think he’ll be better than Hansen Have a hard time seeing him hold up over 150 innings

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 05:16 PM) I like the aggressiveness, but it's too soon for the Sox to blow up the rebuild like that^ I agree with Hahn that we will have a much better idea how good our prospects are in nine months and can better assess organizational needs. That could be a package we really regret parting with if Hansen continues do build on a strong 2017, Cease improves his command of his already strong stuff and if Rutherford bounces back to show the tools scouts really liked making him a first round draft pick. Or you are getting good value before Cease loses any chance to be considered a starter and Rutherford loses trade value if he continues his hitting struggles. Also don't know how Marlins feel about Blake as they have some former Yanks executives over there now

Been thinking that if you really want to dream big about possible title contender in a few years, you could trade for Yelich now and then go after Machado next offseason. I wouldn't hesitate to see a package like Hansen, Cease and Rutherford for Yelich. Just to dream big, your 2019 lineup could be: - Yelich - Moncada - Machado - Abreu - Jimenez - Garcia - Castillo - Delmonico - Anderson

QUOTE (Knackattack @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 05:16 PM) Machado himself is unprecedented, you could sign him 10yr/320m and he would be 36 at the end of the deal. Pay him more the first few seasons when we have no payroll and offer him an opt out after 6 years. If the price is something like Anderson/Lopez/Fulmer/Dunning and you can get him to sign, you do it. That's far too much to give up for technically one year of him. I do like that package of prospects though to try and obtain a special player.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 05:05 PM) How many teams have spent $300 million on a free agent? Which makes the Machado and Harper free agencies unprecedented

Hahn never says anything definitive either way

QUOTE (Jack Parkman @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 01:08 AM) They were widely regarded as runners-up to Texas in the A-Rod sweepstakes in 2000. They offered 8/196. I remember that vividly, it isn't unprecedented. Machado and Harper will get way more than ARod

Still have my doubts they will get into an unprecedented bidding war

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 12:10 AM) He turned a 12 win OKST team into a 20 win, 7 seed team. He can do it at the P5 level. Like I said, he's got a tremendous reputation for being a top notch coach, he has enough results to back that up (in my opinion). But he has zero evidence in being able to build a program at the P5 level, so plenty of questions on whether he actually succeeds at Illinois. Didn't hurt he had a superstar pg at Oklahoma St and was replacing a horrible coach

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Dec 12, 2017 -> 11:50 PM) Underwood has the reputation and the results to back it up, he's a top tier coach. The questions are around his ability to build a P5 program (with recruiting, etc). I think he can do it, but the start isn't as encouraging as I would like. I wouldn't say he has the results to show he's a top-tier coach yet. Lots of guys have won huge at low to mid-majors only to be ineffective at the highest level

No way in hell the Sox make this deal just for one season of machado

WSD says nothing to it

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Dec 12, 2017 -> 09:07 PM) The Cubs could be a player here, they are allegedly already in talks on moving a SS to San Diego and if they move Schwarber, they could conceivably end up with the players that the O's are looking for plus some extra pieces to replenish their farm. Machado at SS and Baez to 2B would give them a really good shot at getting another ring before their window starts to close. Would be lots of moving parts for not a significant increase in talent while adding huge to their payroll to extend Machado. They are way more likely to go after Harper next offseason

QUOTE (hi8is @ Dec 11, 2017 -> 04:57 PM) What'd dude say? Nothing remotely interesting

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Dec 11, 2017 -> 03:54 PM) Why would Boston do that? JBJ surely has more trade value than Schwarber after his replacement level 129 games in 2017? I get Cubs fans are obsessed with him, but outside of playoff heroics he just hasn't been very good. So they're not getting Benintendi for him like they think?

Watched whole Illinois game and there really weren't that many questionable foul calls. Illinois players just don't know how to play defense without being too aggressive right now. Alstork in particular was totally out of control last night and Lucas has a horrible habit of lowering his shoulder every time he drives