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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 23, 2016 -> 05:45 AM) Assuming the Cards are done... Yes, because God forbid anyone try to get better besides Cubs in NL Central

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jan 23, 2016 -> 06:42 AM) Supposedly CarGo is not the outfielder there are shopping. Parra went there to play with CarGo. Still think Blackmon ends up in LAA, Fowler to Cubs and Jackson to Rangers.

QUOTE (Baron @ Jan 23, 2016 -> 05:39 AM) Yep exactly. Might as well go for it one more time. All the valuable trade chips are under contract for multiple years

QUOTE (Baron @ Jan 23, 2016 -> 06:34 AM) Well here's the thing. Just because you start a rebuild doesnt mean that all it takes is 5 years and you'll be right in the playoffs. That's what they are missing. Losing now doesnt guarantee winning in the future. But a rebuild guarantees nothing either. With the Sox history of not developing hitters, I'm not exactly confident they can rebuild an offense from scratch if they traded Abreu and Frazier. I'm sure some will disagree, but the Sox system absolutely sucks after the top 3. You might as well trade Rodon also, as you aren't competing in his cheap years.

QUOTE (Baron @ Jan 23, 2016 -> 06:29 AM) The amount of idiot Sox fans on Twitter getting mad at me for not wanting a rebuild is amazing. Too late for that. No rush to rebuild, all it takes is unloading Sale and you drastically improved your system.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jan 23, 2016 -> 06:25 AM) Did you see that projected lineup of our dream lineup of Desmond and CarGo lol. Woof. Studly

QUOTE (Alexeihyeess @ Jan 23, 2016 -> 05:21 AM) They dont have any. They just whiffed on 3 straight OF's because they couldn't muster up the dough. I dont buy this "Cespedes had his heart set on New York" for a second, the dude's played for 4 teams in 2 seasons and at the onset of the offseason the Mets took themselves out of the running. The Mets, who have no money because Madoff took them to the cleaners, straight outbid the Sox. They just gave him the largest single season outfield contract ever. It's not like Mets got a hometown discount.

T minus 12 hours before Nightengale tweets Sox aren't actively looking....content with roster, expect improvements from Avi and Laroche

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jan 23, 2016 -> 06:11 AM) Glad Sox didn't get Cespedes. Avi is the least of our worries IMO. Shortstop is a bigger problem and catcher, 2B and 3B have to produce. I've been fooled about upgrades before. I want proof on the field and in the batters box. Avi is the most of our worries

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jan 23, 2016 -> 06:09 AM) Signing Desmond and trading Avi and Adams for CarGo. I think that would work. That would be beautiful.

For me, I would have been pissed if a team signed him for something like 3/65. However, I'm at peace with what he got and Sox not offering. All the best to the Mets in the NL

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jan 23, 2016 -> 06:05 AM) The clear answer is Desmond & Jackson, but I wouldn't be opposed to a Desmond & trade for one of the Colorado OFers. Yep, I'm on board with that. I don't think Jackson or Fowler is happening.

God knows I have too many posts in this thread that were anti-Cespedes, but for those that wanted him....would you have been ok with paying him 27.5?

If he doesn't opt out, it almost definitely means he didn't come anywhere close to repeating his 2015 season.

QUOTE (2005thxfrthmmrs @ Jan 23, 2016 -> 05:52 AM) Any move to spend the "$27.5 mil" that is thought to be available is a mistake at this point. Any offensive players that remains out there are 4th or 5th options, and won't get much ROI for the money. Need to think outside the box and trade for someone who's considered a reclamation project. Ian Desmond is a great reclamation project who is extremely likely to earn his salary

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jan 23, 2016 -> 05:49 AM) It's 25 million a year if he does not opt out. If he opt outs after year 1, his salary that first year will be 27.5 million. Heyman and Rosenthal tweeted it I believe. Highest amount ever for an outfielder I believe

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 23, 2016 -> 05:48 AM) Soler or Baez for pitching to TB and then Fowler coming back makes too much sense... Plus Soler upped his value a bit with that flash of potential in the post-season. I think it's more likely the Cubs get Fowler than the Sox do. Cubs will also probably trade Hammel to free some money.

Steps Curry is so much fun

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jan 23, 2016 -> 05:40 AM) ...while giving up 2 draft picks in the process. Hell no to that idea. You gain one back next year if you sign one of them to 1-year deal

QUOTE (ptatc @ Jan 23, 2016 -> 05:39 AM) It will be interesting to see. I'm not sure there are improvements out there. EJ needs a shot in the rotation. Desmond is interesting but the sox need defebse there for the oitching staff. Where did the notion come that Desmond is bad on D?

Still just hope that if they were in on Cespedes that they use that money elsewhere in the next few weeks.

No deferred money included...no way Sox were topping this

No clue how true, but from Wednesday https://mobile.twitter.com/HotStoveCubbies/...045666983182336

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 23, 2016 -> 05:24 AM) If he clearly wanted to go to the Mets all along, they should have done their due diligence and started negotiating with Fowler, Jackson, Desmond, etc., days ago. We'll see if that was the case or not...if they really believed they were playing poker and the market was forced in their favor or direction. Why would any of those guys sign before Cespedes went somewhere?

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jan 23, 2016 -> 05:21 AM) 27.5 million if he opts out in year 1. Gross