fathom

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 6, 2011 -> 07:44 PM) It wasnt puzzling. He was duped into thinking he could get Dunn for Jackson and then was surprised when he couldnt. From everything I've heard, Rizzo wanted Viciedo AND Jackson for Dunn.

Honest question: if you traded Jackson now, could you even get someone as good as Holmberg back? Still the most puzzling trade of the KW era.

QUOTE (docsox24 @ Jul 6, 2011 -> 08:37 PM) I better keep quiet on this one or the site may blow up... And I'm nervous now

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Jul 6, 2011 -> 07:35 PM) It's also amazing for as long as Santiago has been with the big club, we haven't seen him. Shows two things in my mind: the Sox want to protect him and we've been in a ton of close games. Hasn't been a lead bigger than 3 in a game we've played in for a hell of a long time. I feel awful for our starting pitchers where 3 runs allowed seems like they're giving us no chance to win.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 6, 2011 -> 07:31 PM) This is so funny. I guess if people want to pay for this s*** more power to 'em. Team has proven it cannot hit ANY starting pitcher in the league. I don't even want to think of how bad our offensive stats would be if not for Jeff Niemann.

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Jul 6, 2011 -> 07:30 PM) That was the same day Jake said no to us the first time. Wish he said no the second...

Good news is that Hector Santiago's been perfect in his two weeks up with the big league squad!

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 6, 2011 -> 07:27 PM) .500 or .525 is the maximum upside. Losing this one, three of four or all four to Minnie and a 3-7 start the second half and we are finally done by the end of July. Well, if we're going to fade, better to do it the next 3 weeks instead of doing it in August.

In our last 23 games, we've scored more than 3 runs against the starting pitcher ONCE. That was Randy Wells, courtesy of Mike Quade.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 6, 2011 -> 08:21 PM) Who's worse, Melvin Mora? Didn't he get waived or retire recently? Chris Snopek? Chone

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 6, 2011 -> 07:14 PM) You're going to get Balta and NSS on your case, be wary, thee! I respect those guys, but Morel is the next to last worst 3rd baseman, with regards to hitting, in all of baseball.

It's turned into just an epidemic with RISP

No extra base hits for Morel in 43 at bats. You can't have that from your 3rd baseman.

QUOTE (onedude @ Jul 6, 2011 -> 07:08 PM) As long as changes are made to this team, I'm willing to sacrifice this year. I'd be embarassed for the Sox if I was a fan of another team....There is no definable word for what this team is....at least I can't think of any. Man, this is nothing. When we were 11 games out, I can see giving up on them this year. Somehow, we still have a pulse despite so many guys underachieving this year.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 6, 2011 -> 08:06 PM) Which opposing pitcher basically said teams look forward to facing the Sox because everyone tries to go deep and pull the baseball? Someone on the Twins. Yet we can't fire the hitting coach. Nick Blackburn I believe

Misty May is ugly as hell

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 6, 2011 -> 08:01 PM) KC's performance against us shows me there's no change in our approach to Central Div. teams. It will be a miracle to split that Twins series. If the Twins win the opener, they sweep us. I think we'll win 3 of 4. Offense just needs to get going, as you're not going to win when you have 3 players hitting well (and 2 of them have no power in AJ and Pierre).

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 6, 2011 -> 07:59 PM) Yeah. The Sox need to fire/replace some people. There is no doubt about that. They just need players to play better. For a team that's been so predictably mediocre on offense this year, it's a blessing we're still in the thick of the race. Walker of course should have been fired after 2007, but we know he's here as long as Ozzie is. At this point, the only break us fans could get with this offense is if someone unfortunately has to go on the DL like Teahen or Dunn or Rios or Pierre.

QUOTE (docsox24 @ Jul 6, 2011 -> 06:53 PM) danks is now viewed as a 4th outfielder Ugh...better have 3 good outfielders then

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 6, 2011 -> 06:56 PM) KC grabs the lead in all 3 games. So much for Peavy's plea for passion. The Sox came out flat as can be against the Cubs after Peavy's "plea".

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 6, 2011 -> 06:52 PM) What is wrong with Lexi? He is killing the White Sox. He forgot that there's a thing called center and right field. He'll be fine.

QUOTE (SpainSOXfan09 @ Jul 6, 2011 -> 06:50 PM) Fixed - I meant stacked right handed line up that should be teeing off on this softball tosser. He is literally throwing junk. IIRC, we're one of the worst teams in baseball against LHP.

QUOTE (docsox24 @ Jul 6, 2011 -> 06:49 PM) i would be happy if he were dumped for nothing, how bout you? I'd be thrilled to even trade him for someone else with a bad contract. He's just such a bad player who's been just atrocious for 80% of his time here.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 6, 2011 -> 06:48 PM) At this point they have got to. I've been wondering if we'll see a Swisher situation at the end of the year where he's dumped for basicallly nothing, or in this situation, we'll have to take on someone else's bad contract.

QUOTE (SpainSOXfan09 @ Jul 6, 2011 -> 06:44 PM) How the hell is this humanly possible? 1. We have a power pitcher against a weak hitting team that is making good contact and crushing the ball on occasion!!! 2. We have a stacked power hitting line up hitting little love taps against a washed up softball melon tossing left hander and seemingly have no timing andno clue as to what's coming to the plate!!! Please name the power hitters we have in our lineup? I see three