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QUOTE (RockRaines @ Apr 20, 2011 -> 01:13 AM) 18th in ERA 23rd in baa 10th in batting avg 14th obp 13th in ops First 12 innings of the season though greatly impact the offensive stats. Hey, I was all for hoping the offense struggled cause of the great pitchers we faced, but we looked awful tonight.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Apr 20, 2011 -> 01:12 AM) feel bad for Dunn. Dude was hitting the ball pretty hard before his appendix revolted. Hope he gets his groove back soon, we need someone's bat to pull the rest out of this funk. But the only team I'm looking at in the standings is losing again tonight, so that makes the slump easier to swallow. They'll snap out of this. And that's not just blind optimism. You're going to be big fans of the 2011 White Sox. Give it more than just 16 games. Why does it feel that I'm the only person who thinks the Tigers have the most talent in the AL Central?

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Apr 20, 2011 -> 01:11 AM) Neither, it's the managing. The hitting and pitching will at least come around. Good hitting and good pitching can hide 99% of managerial issues. It's when the hitting and pitching are struggling where you need to steal games, and I think Ozzie is poor at that.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Apr 20, 2011 -> 01:09 AM) Biggest problem on this club, the hitting or pitching? Hitting, not even close. In most of these games, they're not even hitting the ball hard. Dunn and Rios have hit maybe 6 balls hard all season, and most of Beckham's outs have been pathetic.

QUOTE (C_LEE45 @ Apr 20, 2011 -> 02:08 AM) and replace him with who,ill take my chances with OZZIE So what does Ozzie bring to the table (besides for having sound bytes)

QUOTE (Melissa1334 @ Apr 20, 2011 -> 02:07 AM) you're absolutely right lol i do love him and why? i dont know lol i guess its wrong, but i like him a lot as a person and hes so different compared to other managers(not boring) but yea, i over look his very questionable managing Ugh, I hate this. On the field, he's as boring as anyone. Never does anything creative.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Apr 20, 2011 -> 02:06 AM) I'm starting to think it's a leadership problem in the clubhouse for several bad seasons in a row. Lots of people in the media believe the man to blame for bad leadership almost went to the Dodgers via free agency. Considering Buehrle and Konerko are the only two constants for the players (along with AJ), I think you'd have to look at Ozzie and see if maybe there's a disconnect.

QUOTE (Reddy @ Apr 20, 2011 -> 02:03 AM) hahaha so this all stems from an irrational love of ozzie. whatta u like about him? Even Greg is showing frustration...I'm so proud of him!

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Apr 20, 2011 -> 02:01 AM) At some point your players have to put it together. The pen has imploded, and the lineup has gone cold. One run out of this lineup is a joke no matter what night it is, even with a bunt or two. The 3,4,5 hitters on this team need to f***ing hit the damn ball and the rest of the guys need to slap some singles. I'm not sure how anyone in baseball could have managed a win with the performance by our offense today. Sucks for Danks who is having a stellar season. Yes, the offense is slumping, but giving up outs isn't going to make it any better. The bunt has failed so much already this year, it's time to try something new.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Apr 20, 2011 -> 01:56 AM) Even if that one on is moved to scoring position? Moving a runner into scoring position for Dunn is not even that important. I'd rather take my chances of Beckham first and thirding it with a single then relying on Dunn to get a base hit (especially with how awful he looks).

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Apr 20, 2011 -> 01:55 AM) Most likely Ozzie knew there was a 100 percent better chance of konerko getting a hit than beckham and Dunn. And I can't say I disagree with him there. If he's really that unsure of his 2/3 hitters, then move Alexei to 2nd and Quentin to 3rd.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 20, 2011 -> 01:54 AM) Why is it always assumed a DP when a bunt is called? How often does Beckham hit into DPs? A lot less than he reaches base. Why not try a hit and run or have Beckham try to hit the ball to the right side. If Dunn gets a hit, there's a decent chance its for extra bases or maybe he coaxes a walk and even if Beckham doesn't advance him Pierre is on second. We only hit and run with Quentin up and Konerko on base. This managing is just comical.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Apr 20, 2011 -> 01:52 AM) Shields with a gem. f***. He threw meatballs in the 9th, but we just can't square up a f***ing 92 mph fastball. I've never seen our hitters chase so many 2 strike fastballs.

QUOTE (Reddy @ Apr 20, 2011 -> 01:52 AM) lol really? i don't care HOW bad his AB was. you don't just GIVE UP an out with Juan Pierre on first. have him steal for christ sake I'm sure that bunting will pay off sometime this year...we're about 0-9 with it so far.

Brilliant hitting, brilliant managing....awful, boring team.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Apr 20, 2011 -> 01:50 AM) No, he's not. Right now, Dunn's swinging an invisible bat. Just a whopping number of strike outs...he'd made Jordan Danks, Jared Mitchell, and Tyler Flowers blush.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 20, 2011 -> 01:48 AM) Don't you play for the tie at home and play for the win on the road? Yes...Dunn is the easiest out in baseball right now probably. Our manager seriously needs to be fired.

Yay, he's bunting. Please throw it away.

I have faith in Dunn...seriously

Sad thing is if Pierre reaches to start the 9th, Beckham will be bunting again to set up Konerko with 2 outs and runner on 2nd.

QUOTE (Knackattack @ Apr 20, 2011 -> 12:36 AM) Quentin, Danks, Buehrle. Left handed starters and slugging outfielders = Big return by desperate teams. Reports are that Quentin drew limited interest this last offseason, while Buehrle would be a rental that wouldn't get you much. Danks is far and away our best chip.

QUOTE (Brian @ Apr 20, 2011 -> 12:33 AM) Stop with your pipe dreams of Ozzie being fired during the year. JR won't do that to him. Most years I'd agree, but I truly think if this team continues to suck and play terrible baseball, he'll be gone.

QUOTE (Knackattack @ Apr 20, 2011 -> 12:34 AM) Honestly, if the team continues to be s*** up until the trade deadline, we have some players that would be worth some good talent. Who?

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Apr 20, 2011 -> 12:25 AM) but then who takes over? They'll give Cora a test run. Better to see what he has now instead of making him the full time manager when Ozzie inevitably leaves. This is just a horrible team with regards to fundamentals. You have one of the slowest runners in the history of baseball get picked off at first?

Good news is Rios won't bat again tonight unless we have a major threat.