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Have a night, Omar!

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Sep 16, 2010 -> 02:02 AM) You can't blame the season on lack of a DH. This team was built on pitching and has been the most disappointing group. There's no DH on the planet that can over come that. You don't know that. If we got off to a better start this year, especially offensively. we would have had a lot more breathing room. Don't forget Kotsay's horrible ability to hit with RISP and the rally killing that resulted.

There we go Carlos, finish strong!

QUOTE (buhbuhburrrrlz @ Sep 16, 2010 -> 01:58 AM) no. I look forward to their early playoff exit. People say this so often about the Twins, it's like it's a defense mechanism. I don't care how they do in the postseason, because if they take our spot in the postseason, then that's all that matters to me.

QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Sep 16, 2010 -> 01:56 AM) Well Ozzie was the one who wanted to play NL style in his personal 2003 wayback machine. Too bad we play in the AL and have a position called Designated Hitter that he decided to put a few bench players in. But hey, our players are well rested for October tee time. I really do love the fact we dominated against NL team again this season, but were very mediocre against AL teams. Self-fulfilling prophecies seem to come true so often with the Sox.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Sep 16, 2010 -> 01:55 AM) I don't know why. Preseason predictions had this team finishing 3rd or 4th. Yeah, 2006 was much more disappointing.

QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Sep 16, 2010 -> 01:49 AM) I like cooper but I am ready to clean the entire house out. The only one I want to definately keep is Hahn. That entire group that was in the room with Kenny during the Hudson trade on the Club can go as well. Now that you saw the episode I saw, how about that freaking dumbass who said "acquiring a lefty hitter isn't important because in the playoffs, we'll face a lot of lefty pitchers". I hope that person never works another day in baseball.

Gavin's ERA going to be over 4 now...but yeah, safe to say Twins starting pitching is just a little better than ours.

QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Sep 16, 2010 -> 01:46 AM) Well Danks hasn't signed an extension and is going to be costly. Buerhle is basically untradeable at this point. Edwin is a boras client, so enjoy next year and thats it. Our rotation is going to turn itself over in the next few years one way or another. Thankfully Kenny decided to go for it and dump one of our best pitching prospects. More like "our only pitching prospect"

QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Sep 16, 2010 -> 01:43 AM) Same formula we have every year in the 2nd half. Our offense basically shrivels up. Game is kept close for a bit, we get some situation where the bases are loaded and we choke. The following inning the Twinks break it open. Same f***ing formula, year after year. We keep changing players, same thing. So maybe its time to clean house and start over. I know I'm the most Anti-Ozzie guy on here, but is there still any real doubt that there needs to be a shake up with the KW/Ozzie/Walker/Cooper foursome? I can't imagine even the most optimstic/Ozzie supporters would disagree.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Sep 16, 2010 -> 01:43 AM) What did he say? That Sox righty hitters have one hit to left field all day, and that if you keep trying to pull the ball vs Duensing, you're going to have no chance.

Watching Beckham's AB from last inning, you have to wonder why in the hell is he playing? It doesn't take a doctor to realize he's not close to 100%. Gavin continuing his awful stretch run. Both Danks and Floyd have so much ability, but neither has been able to avoid the trend of way too many unwinnable starts.

Yay, finally someone has the balls to question the Sox approach on offense, and it's Hawk of all people.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 16, 2010 -> 01:36 AM) I agree I'd rather see somebody young, anybody really, play next year instead of Juan and Omar and AJ. But why blow up the rotation? Cause they're due to make more money than the GDP of third world countries.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 16, 2010 -> 01:35 AM) The point is ... What the f*** does rebuild mean?? Finishing 20 under for 5 straight years instead of 10 over? We need to ride out this pitching staff and change the lineup again. "On paper" our starting pitching and bullpen is supposed to be special. Admittedly we have not seen that on a consistent basis. This starting pitching is not special, and hasn't been for a complete season since....you guessed it, 2005.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Sep 16, 2010 -> 01:34 AM) Uhh... not watching the game but I look at the box score and I see inside-the-park home run? To RF... geez, f***ing Quentin It was a bomb, definitely cleared the fence.

A topic someone asked me about today: was the 25-5 stretch the worst thing that could have happened to the Sox organization? False sense of having an actual chance in the division/American League, and then we lose Hudson and add a big contract for next season were some of the points to consider.

QUOTE (daa84 @ Sep 16, 2010 -> 01:32 AM) you pitch aroudn him in one inning and it works out for you...then you fail to do the exact same thing 20 minutes later?!? Mauer's only the best hitter in baseball against RHP, IIRC. Steve Stone for Sox Manager!!

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Sep 16, 2010 -> 02:31 AM) Blow it up. This is pathetic. All with two f***ing outs. Seriously, Beckham's throw might have been the worst I've ever seen by a 2nd baseman. He basically needed a cut-off man.

Haha, 3-0. Nicely done Gavin and Beckham. Also, how come everyone in the park knew that Span was going to be stealing on the 1-2 pitch besides Ozzie? Even Stone called for a pitch out.

Holy cow, Beckham looked like he was 43 years old on that grounder. That was just a pathetic attempt.

QUOTE (WinorDie88 @ Sep 16, 2010 -> 02:26 AM) He hit it hard just happened to be right at Valencia. Omar's having a good series offensively so far. Two at bats with runner on 3rd, less than 2 outs, and he hasn't hit the ball out of the infield.

Omar with a great game at the plate so far....yuck. It's crazy how similar our offense fades down the stretch every season.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Sep 16, 2010 -> 12:45 AM) Now that's a guy I wouldn't have minded trading Hudson for. He's got serious 5-tool potential and is only 26, I think. It's comical how Hudson is now one of the most untouchable young pitchers in baseball. Even Brewers fans are frustrated they didn't trade for him.

Beckham's hand injury must still be bugging him, as he's swinging with no authority at the plate. He hasn't hit a line drive in ages.