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Does Carrasco have 5 in him again today?

AJP is 1 for his last 17....please, please get him out of the 2nd spot. You have him struggling in front of CQ, and Dye struggling behind him (3 for last 30).

Gavin's runs per 9 innings (not taking into account unearned runs) is 4.95

QUOTE (Friend of Nordhagen @ Aug 10, 2008 -> 06:17 PM) It feels like a big cloud came in right about the time Jose went down. Feels nervous out there. Agreed

Keep hanging those curveballs Gavin, the Red Sox can't hit very well.

QUOTE (kyyle23 @ Aug 10, 2008 -> 05:50 PM) I have a feeling KW would work on getting some cash in the deal if he were to work out something for washburn, JMO Which would only increase the package we'd have to give up. Trading Poreda for Washburn would be so idiotic.

No Griffey Jr. again today. But don't worry, AJP's staying in the 2nd spot!

QUOTE (shipps @ Aug 10, 2008 -> 05:53 PM) Everyone is smiling I want to smile too. I think it's because most of us think we're screwed right now with these injuries.

QUOTE (Frankensteiner @ Aug 10, 2008 -> 05:01 PM) Key words there. He was a batting practice pitcher the last two months. I am not saying Jose pitching well down the stretch was out of the realm of possibility, but it's certainly not something you can plan on if you're a GM and serious about winning a division title. Agreed...it's likely Carrasco will have a better ERA out of the 5 spot than Contreras would have had.

Is it too late to become sellers?

QUOTE (quickman @ Aug 10, 2008 -> 03:22 PM) fathom as I have stated in an earlier thread, there is insurance for this type of thing, his salary will be offset. I would imagine Jose will return around the ASB next year, in which case the insurance would be void.

QUOTE (Frankensteiner @ Aug 10, 2008 -> 06:21 AM) Umm, you just got the impression the Sox weren't very high on Fields in the last 48 hours? If Juan f***ing Uribe is replacing Fields as a starter, that should tell you something. More that it seems like Crede's career could be in jeopardy, and now there's absolutely no chance the Sox will bring him back.

QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Aug 10, 2008 -> 06:31 AM) The twins bring up Liriano, and we counter with Felix Diaz. At least Diaz's numbers were worthy of a call-up. Broadway's numbers are worthy of a demotion.

Rumor is that Broadway will start on Thursday. If that's true, then shame on this organization.

QUOTE (WilliamTell @ Aug 10, 2008 -> 05:05 AM) Maybe he should've been traded when his value was higher, like Jeremy Reed was. I remember this board when Reed was traded, a lot of people were pissed. But with Crede's agent and back, it's hard to tell what will happen with him. It's amazing what's happened in the last 48 hours with regards to next year. 3rd base and #5 starter are serious holes.

QUOTE (knightni @ Aug 10, 2008 -> 02:26 AM) /waits for fathom, wsb or bearsox to bump the 2nd place thread. And deal with the crap I got last Sunday?

So Griffey Jr. missed tonight's game due to general soreness? Are you freaking kidding me!

QUOTE (beautox @ Aug 10, 2008 -> 03:10 AM) for '09 How so? This Contreras injury really hurts this year, but it's devastating for this offseason's FA plans.

QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Aug 10, 2008 -> 04:05 AM) We need pitching help a lot more than we need 6 outfielders. Keep this in mind....we have 3 guys in PK, Thome, and Griffey Jr. that require a pinch runner anytime they're on in a late inning, close game.

QUOTE (tommy @ Aug 10, 2008 -> 02:50 AM) Horacio Ramirez for Class-A Paulo Orlando. Official per the score. They said Josh Fields officially sent to Charlotte and they can't confirm Boone because roster can't be at 23. Jose possibly pitched the last game for the White Sox. Why would Jose have pitched his last game?

QUOTE (klaus kinski @ Aug 10, 2008 -> 03:03 AM) Does anyone think they may try 4 starters the rest of the way? Not a chance in hell

QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Aug 10, 2008 -> 03:16 AM) How can you even say that? Clearly, Wise is on much thinner ice then OC is. Right now, we couldn't get rid of OC or even send him down, because then we'd have Ramirez or Uribe at SS, the other at 2B, and nobody at 3B. We can do without Wise especially with Griffey and BA. Plus, OC made up for it in a way with an RBI single the next inning. With the way AJ looked, that bunt wouldn't of made a difference. It was a total joke...making fun of the poor posts calling for Wise to be sent down.

QUOTE (BearSox @ Aug 10, 2008 -> 02:50 AM) I wouldn't mind seeing Wise go down after he completely blew the bunt with runners on 1st and 2nd earlier today. Cool, can we release OC then?

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 10, 2008 -> 01:42 AM) This game would have turned out much differently had we gone ahead 2-1 (thanks AJ, nice bunt Cabrera!) and gone to Dotel and Thornton. Completely agree...AJ's 2nd double play was the turning point of this game.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Aug 10, 2008 -> 02:40 AM) You are right about the offense, and a lot of what you say makes sense, but the fact is Ozzie was willing to give up this game, an August game we entered with a 1/2 game lead. He knew there was a distinct chance (if not a certainty) Logan would give up multiple runs, and put him in anyways with another lefty available in the bullpen. With that move, he waved the white flag on this game and on first place (at least for now). We might not have scored anymore even if Ozzie had put Thornton in and he had thrown a good 7th inning, but at least we'd have had a chance. With Logan in, we didn't. "You play to win the game"