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QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Jun 29, 2006 -> 06:26 PM) Ozzie's decision was obviously wrong, but I'm not going to entirely blame him if this team loses today. Contreras pitched like a limp wristed school girl. I don't care if half their hits were bloops. Tough s***. Work around it and figure out how to locate a damn fastball. I'm like you...I expect dominance from Contreras on the mound. However, over the last month, he just hasn't been as effective. His ERA has shot up to the 3.5 range, and lets just hope AJP catches him for his next few starts.

QUOTE(Shamrock4Life @ Jun 29, 2006 -> 06:25 PM) eh what can you do. not upset for leaving jose in. now if ba ends up at 3rd then yes pitch hit to get the fly ball sac fly. but with him at second, i am fine with it. sucks that it started to rain. Contreras was getting hit around by a team on a 13 game losing streak. I would have been happy if we ph for him with 2 outs and no one on, as long as we got him out of the game.

I know it sounds foolish questioning Ozzie after the success we've had, but one of my main complaints has always been that he doesn't have a good feel for taking out his starting pitchers before more damage can be done. In regards to not ph for Contreras, I'm speechless.

It will be interesting to hear how anyone can support that move.

f*** the All-Star game Ozzie....do what's right for the team!!

Outside of 3 innings this series, we've been flat and lifeless. I'm just happy we won two games so far, and we have a chance to possibly sweep this series. I could care less how much the Tigers will dominate this same team.

Ozzie better ph for Contreras this inning.

QUOTE(The Ginger Kid @ Jun 29, 2006 -> 06:06 PM) i've yet to see count throw that 96 mph fastball at the knees. He didn't top 93 mph last game. He needs to go back to the arm angle he had prior to the injury.

QUOTE(CYGarland @ Jun 29, 2006 -> 06:01 PM) I hope Guillen doesn't leave JC out there TOO long. It's clear he isnt fooling ANYBODY today I think we know the answer to that one. This is one of the worst starts of the year by any of our pitchers, all things considered.

QUOTE(Allsox @ Jun 29, 2006 -> 05:57 PM) And it also seems he catches good ones as well. He caught Buehrle's 1:30 shut out last yr and the pitchers don't have a problem throwing to him. Christ, a pitcher has some bad luck and people wish to throw Widge right under the bus cuz it's all his fault. :headshake Check out his CERA this year. He's been awful at mixing up the location.

For those watching...does Contreras have anything on his pitches, or is this like his Astros start from last week where his fastball isn't sharp and he has no splitter?

Contreras giving up a hit to Jose Hernandez? I think that proves he's struggling right now.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Jun 29, 2006 -> 05:07 PM) Surprising we have no HR in this park yet.... hint hint. I was thinking the same thing this morning. Pretty impressive that we've won two games w/o a homer.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Jun 29, 2006 -> 05:03 PM) I miss Mack in the lineup. With our bullpen looking much better, I think it's safe to say that CF is once again our biggest area of concern.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jun 29, 2006 -> 05:00 PM) He has a new arm angle that has added to the mix. I dont know if he quite has his control yet. Personally, I don't understand why he decided to change what was working great. It's not like he needed to add more to his repetoire.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jun 29, 2006 -> 04:58 PM) 2 strikes and we give him something to drive. Widger behind the plate, shock. It's becoming way too common with him behind the plate.

What happened with the Crede play people are upset with? Also, Contreras hasn't been pitching nearly as well over the last few weeks. It's too bad we weren't able to blow the game wide open in the top of the inning.

Montero was sent down after tonight's game. He did a very good job tonight. Hopefully Politte comes back with a better fastball.

YES SIR!!!

Just barely fouled that off.

Be careful here.

s***. That was a massive hanger. I hope Jenks wasn't jinxed.

Damn...I have no clue how he took the 1-2 pitch. Jenks doesn't have much confidence in his fastball tonight.

Start the puns for jinx.

Throw the slider/curve!