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Well....that sucked. That was the one place we couldn't afford for Ozuna to hit the ball.

According to Hawk, Iguchi was late showing up to the game tonight. That's why he's not playing.

The worst thing about playing Willie is that with Pudge behind the plate, it's not like we're going to be running much anyways. I simply hate the "Ike Turner" slap lineup in the game when we're playing good hitting teams.

In theory, bringing in all that equipment sounds good. The problem is that there's just so many assholes there that are trying to make things miserable and impossible for everyone else.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Sep 1, 2005 -> 11:39 PM) Shoot to kill at that point. If anyone even points a gun at anyone, they need to take action to protect people. Its the only way that law and order will be restored. Exactly, and you know they'll start saying it's a racial thing. At this point, like you said, they need to do everything they can to protect these people.

QUOTE(The Ginger Kid @ Sep 1, 2005 -> 11:36 PM) Willie's 0-13 against Johnson. :sleep I'd rather have Blum at 2nd base than Willie. Another lineup tonight where we have 3 players with ZERO homers in the same lineup. I guarantee that not many AL teams in the last few years can say the same thing this late in the season.

QUOTE(The Ginger Kid @ Sep 1, 2005 -> 11:35 PM) they said gooch was having trouble seeing out of his right eye? Well that's not good. Considering that there's likely nothing accute that caused that, it could be either a real quick recovery, or something that can linger on for a while.

Oh boy, that's not good that Iguchi is out. We suffer such an offensive downgrade with Harris in the lineup. If we knew that Iguchi was having injury problems, and didn't try to upgrade at 2nd base over Willie, then that's a big blunder by KW.

Those people shooting at medical workers and other helpers deserve to be thrown in jail for life. My father went down there yesterday to help as a doctor on an emergency response team, and he said it's just an absolute war zone.

Nicely done. Let me add a few thoughts of my own: - Neal Cotts has improved more from one season to the next than any pitcher I can remember in a long time. - The best move KW has made in the last year for the long-term future of this organization was claiming Bobby Jenks. - Baseball announcers need to check their ego at the door. - Dusty Baker should not have a job.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Sep 1, 2005 -> 10:21 PM) AHEM, you forgot someone that single handedly won us a game. I didn't know Timo was a rookie?

QUOTE(Reddy @ Sep 1, 2005 -> 09:40 PM) this is a great way to start off september a) a team we can beat, even sweep, without working too hard How many times have we heard this recently? I'm not saying you're wrong Reddy, but it seems like a lot of people just want to clinch this division during one weekend.

If Ozuna can continue to play solid 3b defense, that would be a huge boost to this team. He's one of those players that makes things happen when he's at bat. We need to do more hit-and-runs with him at the plate, as he's very good at hitting the ball on the ground.

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Sep 1, 2005 -> 08:03 PM) You could be right. Minor league splits are hard to come by. I was going by personal observation on that one. I'm not worried about relief, but if Sanders is on the roster, he's in danger of being used. (I've used that line before for other players. Namely Kevin Walker, Jon Adkins, and Timo Perez -- We know how they have performed this year) Civic...you and I share the same concerns about Ozzie's use of our personnel. Anderson and Gload should be great weapons off the bench...but you know Timo will get the first shot likely. I also think Borchard should be given a few starts to see if he can swing the bat well this last month. The one thing I don't want to see is games where Ozzie starts 5 benchers (unless division race is decided). Rather, he needs to mix in one, or at the most, two bench players with our core starters.

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Sep 1, 2005 -> 07:56 PM) No, I think we have 3 guys who are capable of contributing to a playoff contender. Gload, Baj, and Anderson. But from what I've seen of the player management this season, I have no reason to believe that any of them will be given a chance to contribute ahead of Timo, Sanders, and Ozuna respectively. You know Ozzie is going to use Sanders as a LOOGY in an important spot, with Neal Cotts and Marte still in the pen. Not to mention that Baj's slider appears to be more effective to lefties, and he'd probably be a better choice that Kevin Walker version 2.0. Anderson should be the first righty bat off the bench, getting the occasional start when the matchup favors him. But he'll sit and watch Ozuna and Timo make first pitch outs. Gload should get as many at-bats as is possible. I know he's not going to supplant Konerko or Jurassic, nor should he. But I fear we'll still see a line-up down the stretch with Blum at 1B and Ozuna at 3B, and that's inexcusable with Gload on the bench. (Hell it was inexcusable yesterday) I thought Baj had struggled against lefties all season? The one thing I'm not worried about is relief....as Ozzie seems to be living or dying w/his starting pitcher.

Maybe I missed it, but is Borchard getting called up?

QUOTE(Felix @ Sep 1, 2005 -> 07:52 PM) Casanova instead of Burke? Why? Is Casanova better on defense than Burke? That would be the only reason I could think of as a 3rd string catcher.

QUOTE(Whitesoxfan56 @ Sep 1, 2005 -> 03:56 PM) We all knew that August would be a horrible month, and it was, but now it is September, and it is time to put August behind us and go out there and cheer on the best team in the AL. LETS GO SOX!!!!! Why did it have to be horrible, because we were playing good teams? If that's the case, then a playoff run isn't probable. Also, just cause you're playing good teams, it doesn't excuse the terrible execution, awful defense, and horrible managing.

You can be a fan of a team without having blind optimism. A lot of the most optimistic posters on this site are disgusted with the team in the last month. Some of the same people saying the Sox are done are the same people who were buying their White Sox World Series replica rings 2 months ago. I honestly think some people really have felt all year that this team was going to collapse if improvements weren't made (myself, Milkman, SSI, etc.), while others say things like "the Sox are done" as a defense mechanism in case they don't make it.

The one thing that's dead-on in this article: take those stupid playoff commercials off of the radio!

All I know is that when the offseason comes around, I wish there's just a thread with actual updates and tidbits of information. I have no problem with people wanting to discuss and analyze information (it is a message board!). However, it got a little difficult to follow what was actually rumor, and what was just opinion.

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Sep 1, 2005 -> 06:02 AM) People want to add a bat...maybe KW already thinks the bat is in house. Podsednik off the DL perhaps, or maybe, just maybe, it is Gload. The 40-man comes into play, so Gload should come up. It's a matter of Ozzie playing him. Meaning the only time, absolutely ONLY time Geoff Blum should play is when he is backing up the guys at 2B and 3B. If KW thought Gload was the offensive answer, you can bet your ass he would have been on the MLB roster during the last few weeks. Also, since when did Blum become the whipping boy? How quick we all forget how poorly Crede was playing in August.

QUOTE(SoxFan562004 @ Sep 1, 2005 -> 05:59 AM) fathom, you're a solid poster but this should be in green right? I mean Anderson and Iguchi won the Seattle game on Friday and Bmac and Jenks combined for a CG SO of the Texas @ Texas, both games during a downturn... those are big in my book Oh yeah, very sarcastic. We've received some big time performances from rookies lately. I love the energy that Jenks and Anderson has given us recently, and of course McCarthy showed up huge last night.

Why can't the Sox ever get a rookie to have a big performance late in the season?

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Sep 1, 2005 -> 05:49 AM) I agree 100%. Hell just the fact that we get to watch THIS TEAM play meaningful games this late in the season is so unbelievable. Watching the Indians game today was great, the games have more meaning, you can actually watch other games with intent because they directly affect the Sox. You look at the talent on the Indians squad, as well as their very underrated pitching staff...and you wonder how in the world this team ever got 15 games up on them. I mean that as a compliment to our players, as I honestly think the Indians are one of the 5 best teams in baseball. BTW, my "projected" 2007 starting rotation is: - Buehrle - Garland - Garcia - Cotts ( I bet we give him a shot to start games again) - McCarthy If, for some reason, these 5 guys can fill these roles, you'd have a lot of chips to use in order to attract offensive help.