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QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Sep 1, 2005 -> 03:44 AM) Thank you. GREAT post. Nobody has ever bit their tongue when being either negative or positive. If you can make a statement and factually back it up, you'll have no problems. It's only those that are overly-negative or overly-positive who are blasted, and rightfully so. Like I said yesterday, the best thing about this site is that it's soxtalk.com, and not soxcheerleading.com.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Sep 1, 2005 -> 03:38 AM) Where is everybody getting ripped for being negative? How come I just don't see it? Fathom has managed to stick around and he at times is the most negative fan you're going to come across. Sometimes people go over the top with their negativity and are called on it, then claim they're getting flamed or blasted. I just don't see it. I think I've been allowed to stick around because I actually give reasons for why I say negative things. Also, I'm not a bandwagon jumper like so many people on this board are.

QUOTE(JimH @ Sep 1, 2005 -> 02:20 AM) How did I know this would somehow turn into a Timo bash ??? Just so you know Jim, I was totally joking about that. I've even said recently that Timo has one of the better chances on the team to get a hit it seems. Is there ever a bad time for a CLEAN Timo joke?

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Sep 1, 2005 -> 02:12 AM) The Sunday line-up should be disbanded until the division is clinched. No kidding. And if ONE player needs a rest, that's fine...sit him that day. But no more lineups with 3 starters on the bench.

The funny thing is how much dip he has in his mouth. In the minors, you risk getting fined if you're caught with it.

QUOTE(JimH @ Sep 1, 2005 -> 02:07 AM) Well you are right of course but the Indians can't take 3 games by swishing a shot from 45 feet out, this ain't basketball. If it was basketball, Timo would definitely be "that guy" on the team who came in to shoot FTs at the end of the close game because of his "veteran poise".

Super prospect on the Marlins just hit a grand slam in his first career AB.

QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Sep 1, 2005 -> 02:07 AM) We coulda been undefeated this season if... Most people probably think that I believe we'd be undefeated if Ozzie managed better.

QUOTE(JimH @ Sep 1, 2005 -> 02:04 AM) Not the worst of days after all. I'm not a big believer in miracles and that's practically what it would take to overcome a 7 game lead with 30 to play. After what I saw happen in the Illinois/Arizona game this year, I don't think anything is final until there game is over/divison is clinched.

QUOTE(JimH @ Sep 1, 2005 -> 01:58 AM) Yeah but that didn't happen. Numbers can be massaged any way we want. The division will be won head to head, just like it is every single year. Yep, they all count as a W or L in the standings. There have been a lot of "if this, then this" that have happened for the Sox. For the most part, it's all been positive. We could easily be like 3-10 vs KC this year....but no one mentions something like that.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Sep 1, 2005 -> 02:01 AM) f*** yes indians lose All in all, a productive day.

YES SIR!!! Indians lose 4-3.

2 outs, tying run on 3rd base for the clutch Broussard.

4-3, Indians with a man on 2nd, one out. Ordonez was unable to prevent Martinez from getting to 2nd.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Sep 1, 2005 -> 01:41 AM) I'm watching on mlb.tv as well. Anyways, that rally died in a hurry, absolutely beautiful, hopefully the tigers can finish this one off. Am I allowed to be pessimist here also? Well, it definitely won't be easy in the bottom of the 9th.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Sep 1, 2005 -> 01:41 AM) 2 hours 20 minutes to nothing. If the Sox had traded for Walker, it would have likely been announced now. There's a much better chance he was traded to the Indians, and they're just waiting for the game to end to announce it.

For my fellow Sox fans in this thread: do you get as nervous about these games as you do for Sox games now? I know we're supposed to worry about the Sox primarily, but it might as well be the Tigers acting as the White Sox tonight.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Sep 1, 2005 -> 01:38 AM) Casey Blake is an idiot, thank you very much. Holy cow, I can't believe that. Jphat...are you watching on the extra inning package? You're seeing it way before I am on mlb.com.

And the Indians are prime for runs in the bottom of the 8th inning. This team just has so much confidence in their ability to come back in games.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Sep 1, 2005 -> 01:28 AM) Very nice move by Trammell to pinch run Young for Logan. Yes it was. It figures that guys like Griffey Jr. and Dmitri are on fire when we're rumored to be interested in them. Thankfully, Huff hasn't been very good since the deadline. I still have a lot of doubt the Indians will lose this. They'll "Hulk up" in no time.

4-2 Tigers in the 8th.

QUOTE(Tadahito15 @ Sep 1, 2005 -> 01:16 AM) Even if 05 ends on a sour note, 06 looks VERY bright. We are going to hopefully have lots of $$$ to spend and have lots of trade bait and good fillers/possible starters(bmac, anderson and co.) Yep, just how things looked so promising after our last playoff appearance.

FWIW, Tigers took the lead 3-2 in the 8th.

Pudge homers in the 8th, Tigers lead 3-2!!!!!

For the month of August, we didn't come back from a 2 run or greater deficit ONE TIME! That's simply pathetic.