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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 21, 2010 -> 01:41 PM) .290 batting average, .766 OPS. Lat 3 year splits, .275 average, .738 OPS. I dug up these numbers a few months back, gotta put them in multiple places so I can find them easier in the future. Kotsay's 3 year splits vs RHP: .275/.335/.403/.738, 654 PA, 10 HR Kotsay's 4 year splits vs RHP: .276/.339/.394/.732, 1088 PA, 14 HR Kotsay's 5 year splits vs RHP: .272/.330/.397/.727, 1525 PA, 26 HR His last healthy season (2006): .278/.343/.379/.723, 434 PA, 4 HR And his last healthy season before that (2005): .261/.310/.404/.715, 437 PA, 12 HR

What sane organization is going to allow their top starting pitcher to take a 2 week break from MLB baseball at the end of July/beginning of August to pitch in a 2 week highly competitive tournament? If Jake Peavy were to participate in such an event I'd be downright furious, even if he were representing my homeland.

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Feb 19, 2010 -> 04:46 PM) According to Baseball Prospectus. If we trade Flowers, Viciedo and Danks. Our top ten looks like this: 1. Daniel Hudson, RHP 2. Jared Mitchell, OF 3. Brent Morel, 3B 4. Clevelan Santeliz, RHP 5. Trayce Thompson, OF 6.Santos Rodriguez, LHP 7. David Holmberg, LHP 8. C.J. Retherford, 2B 9. Jhonny Nunez, RHP: 10.Josh Phegley, C: We have a decent draft pick this year, a nice collection of young guys at the big league level, and a good market over in Cuba. I ‘m not too worried about this organization’s prospect future. There's no way you trade for AGon right now and not surrender Daniel Hudson in the process.

QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Feb 19, 2010 -> 04:28 PM) Konerko and AJ are both off the books next year. That is $18 million right there that can be used towards an AGon extension. Then you have $67.8M committed to 10 players: Buehrle Floyd Peavy Linebrink Thornton Pierre Ramirez Rios Teahen Viciedo And Danks, Jenks and Quentin all due large raises in arbitration, that's another $22M, so $87.8M due to only 13 players. Add on Gonzalez's pay and you're over $93M to only 14 players and dealing with a completely decimated farm system. The only decent young player on the 40 man roster right now who's pre arb and would still be around after that deal would be Gordon Beckham, that's 15 players. 2012: Floyd, Peavy, Rios, Teahen and Viciedo = $44M with Danks, Pena, Quentin and Ramirez all arb eligible and once again; all of your top prospects going into the 2010 season are gone, better hope a few prospects left over after the trade fly through the system.

QUOTE (hogan873 @ Feb 19, 2010 -> 02:48 PM) If the Sox do sign Damon, is there a chance the deal includes an option for 2011, or will he be strictly viewed as a stop-gap? I highly doubt it, Scott Boras almost never agrees to include team options in his client's contracts. He hates giving someone else control over his client's future.

QUOTE (PlunketChris @ Feb 19, 2010 -> 01:37 PM) my thread is only at 29 pages right now.. what's the usual post per page ratio because I think I have 50/page Page 20 for me, I think I have it set to 75 posts per page, I can scroll through a thread getting the gist of the conversation in no time. I can't imagine reading some of these super treads with only 10 to 25 posts per page constantly clicking the next page.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Feb 19, 2010 -> 01:47 AM) Of course not. However, assuming this dude is just making it up, it's kind of odd that he'd just randomly make up something like that, especially since it appears he's more an NFL guy. It's just unbelievable enough to be believable.

QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Feb 19, 2010 -> 01:01 AM) OK, don't shoot the messenger and I have no idea who this dude is, he looks like a scout....but here are a few tweets: An inside source to the negotiations between the ChiSox/Boras/ Johnny Damon stated that a deal is done pending physical #mlb #whitesox about 4 hours ago from web Source stated that Damon's contract with the White Sox is complex, and a healthy chunk will be based on player performance #mlb #whitesox about 4 hours ago from web http://twitter.com/Roger26N This is a pretty random source. What he is reporting may actually add up: So I'm supposed to believe that an NFL "scout" scooped EVERYONE by at least 5 hours on a baseball story involving one of the bigger names in the game and the highest profile sports agent on the planet?

QUOTE (joeynach @ Feb 18, 2010 -> 05:40 PM) Hes gonna get like at least 5 Years 75 Mil, if not 6 years 100 Mil. There is no way the sox get involved. Try 8 years, $180M if he keeps up his 2009 level of production. He's an elite talent and he'll land elite money.

I don't think people realize just how bad Aaron Rowand really is.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Feb 18, 2010 -> 02:48 PM) not to be a downer but I think Montreal had a better team that year. Pedro martinez, John Wetteland, Larry Walker, Delino DeSheilds, Moises Alou It would have been a great World series. Given that I was only 7 years old at the time I knew very little about the 1994 team so I recently looked up the standings. The Sox were only a single game up in the division and 3.5 games up in the wild card and tied for the 3rd best record in baseball on August 10th, the Yankees and their 6 hitters with an .800+ OPS had the best record in the AL. The way Sox fans talk about this team I just assumed they were way up in the division and held the best record in the AL. Regardless of how incredible people think that team was they were barely holding on to a playoff spot with the absolutely stacked (7 hitters with an .800+ OPS) Indians right on their ass and 2 months to go, I am now convinced that Sox fans are delusional.

Ryan Sweeney

Aaron Rowand has posted a wOBA between .323 and .325 in 4 of his last 5 seasons (league average is around .330) with a ~22% K rate and his defense over the past 4 years has been a little above league average, oh and he'll turn 33 in August. He's a pretty mediocre baseball player who is now past his prime.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Feb 17, 2010 -> 04:40 PM) No, that wouldn't be right either, well who knows. I'm thinking more on the finance side of what a PV calculation entails. But if you gave him 4M up front with 2M deferred over the next 5 years, the value of the entire contract in todays values might be right around 4.5M. Who knows, either way, I could see this making a whole lot of sense. You're right, I misunderstood.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 17, 2010 -> 04:36 PM) Because, due to inflation, deferred money is worth less than money paid up front. There's almost always interest added to that differed money to account for inflation, I can't think of a case where that wasn't the case.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Feb 17, 2010 -> 04:35 PM) So I assume the PV value is actually like a present value calculation , so maybe he gets 6M, but a few of the million are in deferred payments for the next 5 or something? Yep. Probably $4.5M salary for the 2010 season then another $2M-$2.5M over the next 3-5 seasons.

QUOTE (WCSox @ Feb 17, 2010 -> 04:31 PM) I don't understand the big hang-up on deferred money, especially if you're already mega-rich like Damon. If they're legally-obligated to pay you, you'll still get it. Yep, when you've already banked $100M in salary alone over the course of your career and god knows how much in endorsements you'd think waiting 3 years for the other ~$2.5M wouldn't be that big of a deal. It's likely that his hangup is based on principle.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Feb 17, 2010 -> 04:22 PM) How much is deffered? Damon must really not like Detroit. If the present day value is $4.5M then that means there's probably another ~$2.5M differed. $7M makes an awful lot of sense even if 36% is differed.

QUOTE (GoodAsGould @ Feb 17, 2010 -> 12:43 PM) Im so sick of this crap, no player in mlb is going to draw fans solely on their name with the exception of Ichiro because he brings in the Japanese population. The only thing that will bring in fans otherwise is winning. I've actually driven up to Milwaukee 4 times over the past 3 years just to see Albert Pujols and I was at Wrigley last May watching Tim Lincecum take down the Cubs, normally I wouldn't step foot in that place but I had to see Tim Lincecum in person. Johnny Damon on the other hand? Not so much.

QUOTE (daa84 @ Feb 17, 2010 -> 12:24 PM) IF it happens, (big if) what is your lineup? Damon DH Beckham 2b Quentin RF Konerko 1b AJ C Rios CF Teahen 3b Ramirez SS Pierre LF Not bad, but there are those 3 righties in a row in the middle....but im ok with that my guess is that ozzie would still have pierre lead off and put damon in the middle of the order to break up the righties That is, of course, the perfect lineup given the personnel but you and I both know it would never happen. I actually like Pierre as the #9 hitter and left fielder.

So is Kate not a candidate? They didn't show her name.

QUOTE (WCSox @ Feb 16, 2010 -> 03:52 PM) Except for the fact that it's probably his last chance to land a semi-lucrative multi-year deal (he'll be 36 in June) and it's a guaranteed $14M. If Damon were to suffer a major injury this summer (like a torn ACL), he might not be able to play again until he's 38. I don't see why he didn't take the (alleged) 2/14 offer from the Yankees. ^^^ If Damon could stand taking a trip to the Bronx every day, driving into Detroit for two years isn't the worst thing in the world. If he stays healthy this year and puts up good numbers he should be able to land a multi-year deal next offseason, there's a big difference between 37 and 38 in major league baseball. If he takes that 2 year deal it'll be the last of his career, a 1 year pact worth equal annual salary sets him up for an opportunity for one last multi-year deal after proving his worth away from Yankee Stadium in 2010. Of course there are nice neighborhoods around Detroit but living in a place where the major metropolitan area is a war zone is a huge turnoff and I would understand if it were a deal breaker for his wife.

QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Feb 16, 2010 -> 03:23 PM) Damon's wife could have 14 Million reasons to live there for 6 months a year. Given that Johnny's already made ~$100M in his career, I'm thinking $5M-$7M and spending 1 year in Chicago/Atlanta then finding a new home for the 2011 season and another ~$5M is FAR more attractive than $14M and living in that s*** hole that is Detroit for 2 years.

Between the Twins, Tigers, Royals and Indians there's only 4 left handed starters in the AL Central as of today and none of them are particularly good (though Liriano is a wild card): Sowers, Huff, Laffey and Liriano (the 3 Indians are all on shaky ground with righties Carlos Carrasco and Mitch Talbot right in the mix as well with Talbot out of options.)

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Feb 14, 2010 -> 09:45 PM) I voted for the 2nd option, though I think "satisfied" is a bad choice of wording. I'd say I'm content with what we've got, but craving more. We can succeed with this roster, but we can also improve. Agreed.