southsideirish71

QUOTE(DukeNukeEm @ Jun 25, 2005 -> 08:08 PM) Wow. I read this again. And this is EXACTLY what I'm talking about. Congrats on becoming the official poster boy for disrespectful and spoiled rotten Sox fan! Thanks for backing your facts up with conjecture and bulls*** noob. I state facts and you state wishy washy bulls***. Teams improve themselves with some moves. It will happen. Just because you have this cutesy little idea of how the shower will not be the same if Crede isnt in there with them, hey thats life. He cant hit, 1400 ABS tell us this. He has regressed. And after watching KW get Alomar and Everett a few times over the years should tell you that he will make a move or two.

QUOTE(DukeNukeEm @ Jun 25, 2005 -> 08:06 PM) We have both Everett and Thomas who can pitch hit. Uribe can play 3rd too. Uribe has been eratic at the plate also. He cant control himself and swings for everything including things over his head. Putting him at third solves nothing. We need another bat in the lineup that is a control bat, someone that hits to right field, someone that can bunt, someone who can hit to right side to move a runner over. Also someone who can play good defense. Aka Joe Randa

I would ditch Crede in a second. He cant hit when it counts. The occasional home run when up by 8 is nice and all, but it doesnt pay for the times when he has men on and cant drive them in when the game is on the line. This lets sit on our laurels because we have a great record. Well guess what when the playoffs start the only thing a great record gets you is home advantage. Wild Card teams beat Divisional Champs all the time. Crede is batting under .200 in RISP with 2 outs. Joe Randa is batting .333 in the same respects. That is the clutch stat. When the playoffs begin we start facing the best of the best from the other team. We are not facing some 8 ERA scrub anymore, we are facing Schilling, Santana, Johnson types. And guess what, it can be the difference between one good ab from someone in your lineup. As much as his defense has been spectacular we cant have a situation where we have a few auto outs at the end of lineup. And for your everyone loves Crede and the organization is behind him. I would suspect that they are completely frustrated with him and his reluctance to change his hitting. They were upset with him last year and hoped that he would finally break out. Walker was quoted on the radio as saying, well he plays good defense but we expect nothing but a .240 average. We hoped he made progress but he has reverted to last year after a good start. We need another starter. We cant have either Cuban pitching in the playoffs. I know everyone will say "El Duque" has playoff experience. Well he is barely hitting 85 on the gun and his WHIP is rediculus. He has a good record based on a lot of getting out of jams where a line drive was caught that could of broken the game out for the other team.

Another cuban has broken the 4 ERA level. These guys have got to throw strikes, they need to stop giving every team extra chances.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 25, 2005 -> 05:00 PM) Or the fact that our number 3 hole had a terrible game today, unable to get the runner home in a few potentially big situations? Its nice that he is working on a new swing right now. Getting lift and getting around the ball. Nice job.

Anyone throws below 90 and our guys s*** themselves to pull the ball. The only way to beat Maddux who lives on the outside corner is to hit oppo. We do this yesterday however the minute our team goes down a few runs everyone is up there swinging and trying to pull the f***ing ball. Hopefully they get a better approach to the plate tomorrow.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 25, 2005 -> 04:46 PM) Exactly, Contreras basically handed the Cubs those runs in the first inning. This game was a perfect example of why Maddux has 300 wins....and Contreras has been a bust overall in the majors. One person will NEVER lost a game because they "beat" themself, while the other puts himself in a tough situation far too often on the mound. This is why we need another starting pitcher. We will need a 4 man rotation in the playoffs. Each of the cubans will s*** themselves(no matter what their history is) this year.

Its funny, when our offense clicks we hit pitches to right. Then they are forced to pitch inside and we pull line drive homers. When our offense blows, we lunge at crap away and try to pull it. Or we have excuse me swings on the outside corner and just slap crap to right. Square the ball up and hit it where its pitched. Maddux pitched us away and we got pull happy. Arow is definately trying to pull everything now. Joe Crede yesterday hit the ball the otherway. Today he fell over lunging at a pitch in the oppo batters box, rolling his wrists over. This is why he will be a 240 and below hitter in the majors. Conteras should not be allowed to think. Watching him shake off AJ in the first inning made me want to puke. How does someone who has a 96 mph fastball not want to throw it and just fall in love with his junk. He pitches backwards.

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jun 24, 2005 -> 07:47 PM) Wow, it took you that long to get back? I'm glad I live 5 minutes away. Spent some time in the stadium club after the game. You have to celebrate you know. Live in Downers Grove, not 5 minutes away.

Just got back from that game. HOT AS HELL JUST LIKE OUR BEST IN BASEBALL WHITESOX. I had the privilege of having 5 drunken cub fans behind me that were talking so much crap before the game. Frank Thomas is hurt every other game. Then boom he hits a towering shot. When Pods got picked off, they said just walk them and pick them off is this ozzieball. A few innings later they were quiet. Then of course they said we have the best player in baseball. My boss summed it up nicely. What would you rather have chumps the best player in baseball or the best record. Sit the hell down before you make me get up. Its nice to have a boss who is 6'4 and about 270. They left by the 7th inning like all cubs fans and we enjoyed our victory with our fellow whitesox fans. SOX PRIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I know everyone loved the Thomas shot. I still love the right field shot off the foul pole by Crede. Good job going the other way with power Crede. AJ Oppo field shot, thats the AJ we knew as a sox killer. This team is starting to look like it can go off for a big run.

I will be at the game on Friday. I will be looking forward to the final out and a whitesox victory when I can tell the cubbie fans to EAT s*** in person. HELLL YEAH.

QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Jun 23, 2005 -> 04:00 PM) Crede is the starting 3B. He simply doesn't add enough defensively to push Crede to the bench. Crede has the edge in terms of 2nd half numbers over the past 3 yrs. Randa only fits if there is room for him on the bench to backup 1B. He would essentially take Gload's promised spot. Bench: Widger, Everett, Harris, Ozuna, Randa - you have to keep Ozuna & Harris for backups in the middle IF & speed. You would put Randa on the bench over the inconsistant Crede who has a hole in his swing. The guy who even his hitting coach states will be a .240 hitter this year and hasnt accomplished anything from last year. I would start Randa over Crede in a heartbeat. Anyone that states otherwise needs to check in their Crede's Crew application for some prozac.

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jun 23, 2005 -> 03:07 PM) Ah, I see my idea stuck with some people. I like the idea. Crede can still provide a good glove coming off the bench. He can spell Randa and Kong.

Here is where the money is earned. This is the stat that will mean something in the postseason. How many times when you have men in scoring position and 2 outs can you drive that run in. RISP with 2 outs(aka the clutch stat) Randa .333 Crede .172 Hillenbrand .182 Castilla .242 Get Randa, release Timo and use Cruddy to split time spelling Randa and Konerko at 1st.

QUOTE(Steff @ Jun 22, 2005 -> 02:38 PM) Can someone call that jerkoff Dolgin and tell him that some people have effing jobs and can't take the day off to attend the game.. especially when they get out to 50+ others on the weekdays!!! Another bonus of moving to the Score. Mr. Dolgin HE GAWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SEE YA WOULDNT WANT TO BE YAH EAT s*** ROYALE WITH CHEESE

QUOTE(whitesoxmanager @ Jun 22, 2005 -> 02:05 PM) when you say "value" did you mean that someone might pay for what i say? oh cool! look jack in all seriousness i love tim raines....get a kick out of how he runs to first base during warmups before each inning and then just barely runs past first safely and jokes with the opposition first baseman...that to me is fun but what are you trying to do? kill the sox fan? Usually when kids walk into walls they dont give the wall a puzzled look then take a few steps back and then plow into the wall again.

The whitesox are coming in hot to this series with the cubs. We never come into a crosstown series with the bats and the pitching all clicking. We should take this series. I will be there to watch Mitre get lit up and Garcia mow them down. SOX PRIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

QUOTE(whitesoxmanager @ Jun 22, 2005 -> 01:37 PM) more like i had to watch larussa keep putting Dan Pasqua in key situation against blue jays in playoffs...still hurting from that whitesoxmanager blunder! & he said it was all about the math...yikes....there it is again Dan Pasqua strike 3 for the 5th time with bases loaded and 1 out! What dialect of moron is this. I would say idiot, but it seems like a variance of moron. Keep babbling we will figure it out.

He tried getting one in, thats where can you PULL BASEBALL. Nice drive Everett.

QUOTE(JimH @ Jun 22, 2005 -> 01:12 PM) Unfortunately there's a long list of players like that. Its pretty sad when your coaches say that after all the work hitting in the winter, all the changes that you pretty much have regressed and are the same hitter as the year before. That you will hit good for a few weeks then go into a slump and pretty much will hit 240 for the year. Not everyone is hitting .240 Jim.

QUOTE(Steff @ Jun 22, 2005 -> 01:10 PM) LOL.. Crede could be hitting .300 and he'd still get ripped on. If he would hit above 260+ consistantly. And that means not 190 for a month, then 300 for a few weeks, then 190 for another month. I wouldnt have a problem with him.

QUOTE(whitesoxmanager @ Jun 22, 2005 -> 01:08 PM) lay off Crede that dude is a very good player! average doesn't reflect his ability! this game is all about confidence. he has a sweet swing and comes up with clutch hits. fielding is A+. there were years where the sox didn't even know what a 3rd baseman was! Sweet swing? Good lord.

QUOTE(JimH @ Jun 22, 2005 -> 01:04 PM) Crede lines out. 2-0 Sox to the top of the 5th. Its hard to tell that Joe Crede has a .179BA with RISP and 2 outs.

On the Joe Randa Watch he is 1-3 with an RBI single, a walk And this is facing Mark Mulder.