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    Sox looking at building in South Loop

    in Pale Hose Talk

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    55 minutes ago, Nardiwashere said:

    Yup..  the increase in time to get to the new site isn't significant.  I live near the new site and if I jump on an el or take an uber,  I can get there door to door in 10 minutes or less most of the time.  

    Here's another thing.  I imagine a ton of Sox fans live along the orange line route. 

    I had a paralegal who worked for me and she would go to like 10-15 games a year with her family and friends and roll like 25 deep each time.  People like that are going to be able to easily jump on the train instead of being forced to drive.

    The only thing this park wont have is the tailgating, which essentially became popular because there was nothing else to do near the current park.  If you gave Cub fans the choice of wrigleyville or tailgating, do you think they'd prefer tailgating?

    Last time I went to get drinks after a game I was just standing on the sidewalk outside of Turtles/Cork and it was pathetic. We ended up just taking an uber to Weathermark Tavern, which is kind of near the new site. 

    LMAO I have to say I’ll kinda miss just grabbing two tall boys at that state street Walgreens after work and drinking them at the edge of the parking lot before heading inside. Like drinking in an alley, it has its charms. But also everything else is better.

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    2023-24 NFL Season Thread

    in A and J's Olde Tyme Sports Pub

    Posted

    Just now, southsider2k5 said:

    It sounds like A LOT of that franchise did not get along with Bill.  There might be some gains to be made just from that.

    I feel like when Bears were interviewing Eliot Wolf the stuff he got credit for was convincing Bill to spend big on a FA class which ended up being like 3 tight ends that were bad. 

    Sox looking at building in South Loop

    in Pale Hose Talk

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    38 minutes ago, Nardiwashere said:

    Sox fans are a weird bunch. 

    Practically my whole life, people bitched about the current stadium.  Now, they are planning to build a ballpark that looks like it would be one of the premier sports venues in the entire country and a large segment of Sox fans suddenly fell in love with the current park.  

    Today on the radio, Laurence Holmes was making a huge deal that it only takes him 8 minutes to get to the Sox game now.  The new park will take him 18 minutes he said.  This was supposed to be damning evidence against having a beautiful new stadium. 

    The new site is near all the major highways.  It will have access to a metra, red, green, orange CTA lines.  It will be accessible by water taxi.  It will be walkable for a whole bunch of people who live and work nearby.  And yes... it will have parking.

    It will be built in an up and coming area.  It will have great views.  It will be near a ton of bars and restaurants.  It will include a super cool park/green space for people to hang out. 

    The park will undoubtedly have better seating.  It will have better bathrooms.  It will have better food options.

    It will also end the "Will the Sox move to [insert mid-market city]?" discussions that pop up here every once in a while.  It should inject some life into the organization and allow them to invest more money into the club in the future.

    Most importantly, it will most likely be a much more enjoyable place for fans to go for a game.  I love going to New Comiskey... but come on, this is going to be so much better.  

     

    I wouldn't assume too much here. Lawrence Holmes is annoying, but there are a lot of stories on this and nothing else white sox because clearly people are excited for the most part. ANd 10 minutes...doesn't seem bad.

    I'm sure a lot of people are like me and hate going to soldier field just for that long walk meandering walk east and racing people to get to roosevelt.

    And I can visualize it being like that except without the long walk east! That rules.

    Sox looking at building in South Loop

    in Pale Hose Talk

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    13 minutes ago, pcq said:

    The only downside is the site might literally be a cesspool but it's OUR cesspool. 

    'This is a joke, and a good one, but for any wondering this group apparently already did the environmental cleanup which was one of the reasons I first thought this may actually be happening.

    Sox looking at building in South Loop

    in Pale Hose Talk

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    21 minutes ago, Tony said:

    Honestly the renderings didn't blow me away. Location is very cool and love the backdrop, but the stadium itself is very vanilla, lacks any sort of personality. 

    I think the home plate and river front view was pretty snazzy, personally. I like that they had an upper deck in RF. But centerfield is kinda dumb to me. I'm not sure any stadium has really found a nice looking solution for the needs of that center field space. But also we all know it'd be a year before much of that view gets ads.

    Sox looking at building in South Loop

    in Pale Hose Talk

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    If you are someone who would require parking I recommend looking at how US Bank stadium (Vikings) handles parking. There is very little visible parking at the stadium, yet it has about 20k spots available in the near radius. That's for something with 73k capacity.

    What that should mean will be a) certainly any families with accessibility needs are likely still going to be able to have some parking under or close to stadium. B) many of the rest will be accommodated in mixtures of garages in the immediate area, though not all right next to the stadium. That's not a particularly dense area.

    20k is certainly less than the capacity now, when you think about "well if you don't need a car I'm sure you don't care" is also that many of the people that are in between (like me) will probably choose public transit, lowering the amount of cars that need to be there.

    WHile there was public transportation prior (that I still mostly take when by myself), it also funneled everyone to two lines. North/South taken care of by Red. West/South by Green. Adding Red/Orange/Blue and Green will all be served within close walking distance. A 192 bus can run to Ogilvie/Union station. You had like the state street bus before. Just a lot more options.

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    Sox trade Cristian Mena to Arizona for OF Dominic Fletcher

    in Pale Hose Talk

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    6 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

    I like both trades.  Mena will be lucky to make the majors as a reliever.  I don’t get the love for him.  He will likely go the way of Norge Vera.

    See this annoys the hell out of me.

    The reason many, including myself, liked Mena is because he actually pitched. He has been durable, he had pitched young for the league throughout his career. 
     

    The problem with Mena is you can’t say “if he just continues on this trajectory with more experience he can succeed”… because his fastball isn’t quite there and his breaking stuff isn’t elite enough.

    He’s also 6’2”, and this is where smarter people than me should project whether his body type is athletic enough and has room to fill out more to add some power.

    But the thing with pitching prospects is them randomly just getting a velo increase happens. It turned Davis Martin from nothing to a feasible MLb starter. Now do that do a 22 year old who actually is comfortable with 4 pitches?

    Norge Vera was stuff first who never pitched and never gets outs. He could have a great year this year and be three years away because he’s pitched so little.

    In short your reference was bad.

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    2023-24 NFL Season Thread

    in A and J's Olde Tyme Sports Pub

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    2 minutes ago, ptatc said:

    Just more sensationalism to get viewers/listeners. Apparently his friend Parkins (?) on a station here helped him with it as he declared it could be the worst thing ever for the bears as they would have the chance at a franchise qb and then be denied that chance. 

    I more blame Shane Riordan (his producer), who has never gotten a story even close to right one time, ever and in general is the worst. 

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    Cease To Padres per Passan

    in Pale Hose Talk

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    2 minutes ago, hogan873 said:

    Getz knows that he has the upper hand in any negotiation for Cease.  There are still teams that need pitching and could/should be willing to part with what Getz wants in return.  There's less pressure on the Sox to deal Cease than there is on other teams to add a pitcher that could be crucial to their season and post-season hopes.  If Cease is with the Sox on opening day and has even a decent first half, he will still command a haul in return if traded.

    This is a strange thing to say. He doesn’t have the upper hand or else Dylan would have been moved. You go to a garage sale and refuse to sell your hutch for less than $1000 and nobody balked, sure,  you still have an asset that may hit $1000,  but you also have to keep paying to store it because you have no current use for it.

    The market wasn’t good this winter for a trade. That has proven out. He’s not wrong for holding him, but we don’t need to lie that we are in a strong position. We are a 100 loss team whose best asset to trade entered a well supplied market. 
     

    Yippy what a great position we are in!

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    Sox looking at building in South Loop

    in Pale Hose Talk

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    I'm sure those that had to make that decision whether to leave in the 7th inning for that 10 pm BNSF line to the western suburbs would rather be a 3 minute taxi away than  down 35th and shields. THis land giveth and taketh away. Some will benefit, some will lose. 

    But it will be fun to go to. 

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